Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 22, 2013 I think Emmerton is working harder right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Emmerton, for sure. When Helm and Bert are back it would be nice to see Cleary rotated in and out of the lineup, but I'm not sure Babcock would do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Neither should be on the main roster. 3 Serratoni, 13dangledangle and Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) When healthy (and after Nyquist's play makes it impossible to send him back to GR)........ Z - Pavs - Brunner Franzen - Flipper - Nyquist Bert - Helm - Sammy Eaves/Miller - Abby - Tootoo But Emmerton hasn't looked completely terrible like Cleary. Edited January 22, 2013 by rick zombo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeal 60 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 I think our 3rd line is our worst right now. It doesn't have enough speed without Helm. Maybe Eaves can help that out when he is back into game shape but he seems slow as well as expected after 14 months without a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,521 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) I think this all gets sorted when Helm and Bert are back. Give the lineup a chance to play as it was originally intended and we'll see what we have. I don't think Emmerton's been bad, and I don't think Cleary has been as bad as some around here think. But we don't know what we have until we've got a full contingent of forwards. With Helm and Bert back, Cleary doesn't have to carry the puck which should improve his effectiveness, and Abby/Tootoo/Miller or Eaves should mismatch against other fourth lines, necessitating line matchups and clearing the ice up for the third line as well. Let's see what we have, and then act accordingly. But I agree in principle with the OP, Emmerton is working really hard. Edited January 23, 2013 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Yes, Cleary has looked pretty bad overall. He's been slow, easily knocked off the puck, and is losing all the puck battles. I thought this would be different since he had time to heal from his injuries and come back rejuvenated, but unfortunately, I just think Cleary has just lost a step. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Im really not sure how this works but at this point can you say goodbye to one or both? There are other players in GR that could really help the makeup of this team. Im just not sure of the buyout/waiver rules and such... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Yes, Cleary has looked pretty bad overall. He's been slow, easily knocked off the puck, and is losing all the puck battles. I thought this would be different since he had time to heal from his injuries and come back rejuvenated, but unfortunately, I just think Cleary has just lost a step. And EVERY Cleary shot is weak and from the side boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 At least Emmerton plays hard and has speed. If Tootoo could teach him how to forecheck he could be a "poor mans" Helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 When healthy (and after Nyquist's play makes it impossible to send him back to GR)........ Z - Pavs - Brunner Franzen - Flipper - Nyquist Bert - Helm - Sammy Eaves/Miller - Abby - Tootoo But Emmerton hasn't looked completely terrible like Cleary. Did you see something we didn't? For him to be over-ready for the NHL he sure didn't make an impact last night nor did I even find myself saying, wow, Nyquist is good...he was invisible, did not impress what-so-ever. For all the hype for him, he should be making an statement much like Brunner is. IMO, Nyquist is just another Mursak...over hyped and never gonna be anything more than what he already is....and that is not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Did you see something we didn't? For him to be over-ready for the NHL he sure didn't make an impact last night nor did I even find myself saying, wow, Nyquist is good...he was invisible, did not impress what-so-ever. For all the hype for him, he should be making an statement much like Brunner is. IMO, Nyquist is just another Mursak...over hyped and never gonna be anything more than what he already is....and that is not good. Brunner is playing 18-20 minutes a night, on the first powerplay, with Zetterberg and Datsyuk duct taped to his side. Nyquist looked more than fine out there. His play was very good along the boards in the defensive zone, he back checked hard, he had two scoring chances, all in just 11 minutes of ice time. He's playing a third line role, with abdelkader at center. Man lefty, I don't like calling you out all the damn time but some of the things you say just make no sense. Mursak has just 4 points in 45 games, Nyquist has 7 in 19. Come on, how can you compare the two? By the way, Datsyuk had 5 points in his first 19 games, with 2 points in the 19th game, he must have been Mursak as well. 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 As much as I dislike Emmerton, he has looked decent. I think he'll sit once Bertuzzi and Helm are back, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 When healthy (and after Nyquist's play makes it impossible to send him back to GR)........ Z - Pavs - Brunner Franzen - Flipper - Nyquist Bert - Helm - Sammy Eaves/Miller - Abby - Tootoo But Emmerton hasn't looked completely terrible like Cleary. THIS. but will never happen with babs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted January 23, 2013 I think that Emmerton is borderline useless, but Cleary is currently playing like he's planning to retire after this season. He's clearly not weighed down by knee problems anymore---he's fast again---but he is putting forth virtually no effort. He was one of my favorite players over the past six seasons, but now he appears to be completely apathetic. I don't get it. THIS. but will never happen with babs... A bit arbitrary, wouldn't you say? When Helm is back, Abdelkader will be fourth-line center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 23, 2013 I think that Emmerton is borderline useless, but Cleary is currently playing like he's planning to retire after this season. He's clearly not weighed down by knee problems anymore---he's fast again---but he is putting forth virtually no effort. He was one of my favorite players over the past six seasons, but now he appears to be completely apathetic. I don't get it. A bit arbitrary, wouldn't you say? When Helm is back, Abdelkader will be fourth-line center. Cleary is just rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 14, 2023 On 1/23/2013 at 3:07 PM, Guest The Axe said: Cleary is just rusty. You were the man, The Axe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
