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#21 amato

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Richdg" data-cid="2344547" data-time="1358879897"><p>
sammy should have never been signed, water under the bridge. gus needs to play, to see if he can play. IMHO Gus will be lucky to be a 40 point per season guy. He is very small and not very fast. yes he can handle the puck, but that is hard to do while you are laying on your backside.</p></blockquote>

40 points per season in the first couple years of his nhl career would be pretty good. And he's only going to get better

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

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As long as he doesnt bump Emdog</p></blockquote>

Helm will take care of that on Friday.
 
 
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="The Axe" data-cid="2344542" data-time="1358879698"><p><br />
As long as he doesnt bump Emdog</p></blockquote><br />
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Helm will take care of that on Friday.</p></blockquote>


Gotta agree with that one. Helm is great.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

sammy should have never been signed, water under the bridge. gus needs to play, to see if he can play. IMHO Gus will be lucky to be a 40 point per season guy. He is very small and not very fast. yes he can handle the puck, but that is hard to do while you are laying on your backside.

 

Amen on the Sammy bit - Seeing Brunner floating around on those power plays yesterday and actually making quick decisions with the puck from that left side (and not missing the net by 10 feet when he did shoot) was refreshing.  Using Sammy on the PP has always been less about Sammy and more about the Wings' legendary inability to find a great right-handed shooting defenseman for the power play.  Rafalski was that guy to a degree, but he was more of a passer and had that low shot.  Ian White is not Brian Rafalski.  I don't know that Brunner has a heavy enough shot to rain it in from the point, but he looks to be a much more accurate shooter, and he's certainly more skilled with the puck.

 

There are 18 and 19 years olds playing all over the league.  Couturier got significant minutes on a Philly team last year that was actually pretty good.  Nyquist should have a shot at the lineup, and other guys like Tatar should probably have a crack too, instead of wasting spots and money on guys like Tootoo and Samuelsson.  



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

 
Amen on the Sammy bit - Seeing Brunner floating around on those power plays yesterday and actually making quick decisions with the puck from that left side (and not missing the net by 10 feet when he did shoot) was refreshing.  Using Sammy on the PP has always been less about Sammy and more about the Wings' legendary inability to find a great right-handed shooting defenseman for the power play.  Rafalski was that guy to a degree, but he was more of a passer and had that low shot.  Ian White is not Brian Rafalski.  I don't know that Brunner has a heavy enough shot to rain it in from the point, but he looks to be a much more accurate shooter, and he's certainly more skilled with the puck.
 
There are 18 and 19 years olds playing all over the league.  Couturier got significant minutes on a Philly team last year that was actually pretty good.  Nyquist should have a shot at the lineup, and other guys like Tatar should probably have a crack too, instead of wasting spots and money on guys like Tootoo and Samuelsson.  

So you'd rather have Tatar play 7 minutes in 5 on 5 last night than Tootoo?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

Amen on the Sammy bit - Seeing Brunner floating around on those power plays yesterday and actually making quick decisions with the puck from that left side (and not missing the net by 10 feet when he did shoot) was refreshing.  Using Sammy on the PP has always been less about Sammy and more about the Wings' legendary inability to find a great right-handed shooting defenseman for the power play.  Rafalski was that guy to a degree, but he was more of a passer and had that low shot.  Ian White is not Brian Rafalski.  I don't know that Brunner has a heavy enough shot to rain it in from the point, but he looks to be a much more accurate shooter, and he's certainly more skilled with the puck.

 

There are 18 and 19 years olds playing all over the league.  Couturier got significant minutes on a Philly team last year that was actually pretty good.  Nyquist should have a shot at the lineup, and other guys like Tatar should probably have a crack too, instead of wasting spots and money on guys like Tootoo and Samuelsson.  

 

Not wasted spots. Tootoo fills a need that this team has been missing for a while. Samuelsson is perennially a 20 goal 50 point player. If we brought Nyquist and Tatar right up we wouldn't have as good of depth in case of injuries like now.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Richdg" data-cid="2344547" data-time="1358879897"><p>
sammy should have never been signed, water under the bridge. gus needs to play, to see if he can play. IMHO Gus will be lucky to be a 40 point per season guy. He is very small and not very fast. yes he can handle the puck, but that is hard to do while you are laying on your backside.</p></blockquote>

40 points per season in the first couple years of his nhl career would be pretty good. And he's only going to get better

IMHO Gus will never be more than that. 15 G and 25 Assists is his ceiling in the NHL. Part of a 3rd line yes, but no more than that. He lacks the top end speed and isn't much of a shooter.



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

sammy should have never been signed, water under the bridge. gus needs to play, to see if he can play. IMHO Gus will be lucky to be a 40 point per season guy. He is very small and not very fast. yes he can handle the puck, but that is hard to do while you are laying on your backside.

I agree with this statement. Samuelsson is not enough of a difference maker to keep Nyqvist out of the lineup. I also agree with the poster that wanted to see Ferraro get a shot. He seems to have taken a big step this season, which is great news.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

I agree with this statement. Samuelsson is not enough of a difference maker to keep Nyqvist out of the lineup. I also agree with the poster that wanted to see Ferraro get a shot. He seems to have taken a big step this season, which is great news.

 

Ferraro should only get a shot this year if we lose another top 2 player. He just wont be effective playing on the bottom two lines. Not because of Ferraro but because the bottom 2 lines are just so bad right now. 



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

Ferraro should only get a shot this year if we lose another top 2 player. He just wont be effective playing on the bottom two lines. Not because of Ferraro but because the bottom 2 lines are just so bad right now. 

I'm not so sure about that. Ferraro has got speed and is credited as a really hard worker this season. I think he could contribute on any line, but of course he should spend most of the time in GR where he will see more ice time. I think Babcock could rotate between Nyqvist and Ferraro depending on the situation. I'm sure however this will not happen, as Nyqvist is next in line for a promotion.


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