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[hillbillywingsfan]

Like Ian White, Colaiacovo, or Quincey?  Because that's exactly who you did get. 

 

Also, since when is being overly aggressive a bad thing.  Everybody hated Tootoo until yesterday.  Personally, I think some roughneck m*****f***** is exactly what we need.  How many times do we have to say, "we need someone to stand up for our stars"?  Wizniewski does, which I can't say for any member of our current defense.

Have you stopped and compared Colaiacovo and Quincey's numbers to Wiz?? Pretty much the same. White is the only one that has a bit of the suck factor. One day we need Numbers...the next day we need a  roughneck as you put it.....

God forbid we overpay a good player as opposed to overpaying for Ericsson in the same offseason. 

hahahaha go on compare a "good" player as you call wiz to our current d men.

[TheDetroitRedWings]

If he stays healthy i really like this signing. Kent isn't gonna give you moster numbers by any means. But he is very solid defensively and can occasionally put the puck in the net. And got him for dirt cheap as well. Atta boy Kenny!

[kipwinger]

Have you stopped and compared Colaiacovo and Quincey's numbers to Wiz?? Pretty much the same. White is the only one that has a bit of the suck factor. One day we need Numbers...the next day we need a  roughneck as you put it.....

hahahaha go on compare a "good" player as you call wiz to our current d men.

 

White has exactly the same number of points (176) in 100 more games than Wiz.  Colaiacovo has 68 fewer points in 7 fewer games.  YOU might want to compare the numbers hombre.  Wiz puts up better numbers, is a PP quarterback (like we couldn't use one of those), plays more minutes per game, AND is a roughneck.  That's why he's a "good" player, and they aren't as good.

Edited by kipwinger, 22 January 2013 - 03:05 PM.

[The Axe]

How anyone still has confidence in Holland is a mystery. Andersson doesnt have the leg up in Europe anymore, and Scotty Bowman is long gone. Holland is now getting exposed for what he is = a guy who got lucky to have Andersson and Bowman calling shots for him.

I mean listen to some of the posts on here. "I like this signing.". What?

[turbowhistle86]

Jesus H.....at least give the guy a chance to play a game in the Winged Wheel before writing him off. Who knows, maybe playing in Red and White will inspire him to play above his normal level.

[SFwingsfan]

guys been bouncing back and forth between NHL / AHL for ten years, i don't recall much about him other than he is a big body, for 750K, i'll take em.

[Nightfall]

How anyone still has confidence in Holland is a mystery. Andersson doesnt have the leg up in Europe anymore, and Scotty Bowman is long gone. Holland is now getting exposed for what he is = a guy who got lucky to have Andersson and Bowman calling shots for him.

I mean listen to some of the posts on here. "I like this signing.". What?

 

Yea, why have confidence in Holland?  All the playoff appearances, the Stanley Cups as recent as 2008 and the finals in 2009.  I mean, geez, he really has lost it.  I give up.  You win.

[rrasco]

He didn't refuse to sign with Detroit, his rights were traded to Columbus and he signed with them before free agency started.  Might want to be accurate the next time.

 

Accurate?  Yeah, you're spot on!  Let's just say he was never really interested, because well, he knew someone would overpay and that someone wasn't Kenny H.

 

Speaking of money, Canton's James Wisniewski signed a six-year deal with Columbus valued at $5.5 million a season. The Red Wings were interested, but not at that price or that term.

 

"For me, knowing Detroit's history they don't really pay the market value for a defenseman or any player,'' Wisniewski said on NHL Live. "So I didn't think that was going to be a fit for myself.

 

http://www.mlive.com...nto_biddin.html

[The Axe]

Holland hasnt hit a homer since Hossa.

[puckbags]

Yea, why have confidence in Holland?  All the playoff appearances, the Stanley Cups as recent as 2008 and the finals in 2009.  I mean, geez, he really has lost it.  I give up.  You win.

 

I agree, people keep coming up with this lame argument that he inherited the team from Bowman..well no s*** he did..everyone inherits a team from someone. Kenny was lucky as hell to get his from Bowman.  Its the same lame argument people used to make about Ozzie, " he's just a product of his team, he's not that good".  Well what did you expect Ozzie to do back then , " Mr Holland, I don't wish to play for this team you've put in front of me, they are too good and I don't want people to think I'm maybe better then what I am". He still had to stop enough pucks to win everynight and he did a good job of that.  Does Kenny have flaws..of course he did but he's done a pretty good job of carrying on the legacy of this franchise.  Sometimes I wish he had a little itchier trigger finger but on the other hand he's kept this team competitive pre cap and post cap and as fans what more can we ask for?  

[turbowhistle86]

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Holland hasnt hit a homer since Hossa.</p></blockquote>

He hit Homer after signing Hossa? No wonder the guy is retiring....

[esteef]

How anyone still has confidence in Holland is a mystery. Andersson doesnt have the leg up in Europe anymore, and Scotty Bowman is long gone. Holland is now getting exposed for what he is = a guy who got lucky to have Andersson and Bowman calling shots for him.

I mean listen to some of the posts on here. "I like this signing.". What?

 

I think the Andersson point is more important than people realize.

 

esteef

[Motown4013]

Like Ian White, Colaiacovo, or Quincey?  Because that's exactly who you did get. 

 

Also, since when is being overly aggressive a bad thing.  Everybody hated Tootoo until yesterday.  Personally, I think some roughneck m*****f***** is exactly what we need.  How many times do we have to say, "we need someone to stand up for our stars"?  Wizniewski does, which I can't say for any member of our current defense.

Aggressive yes- Idiotic, classless and immature NO.

 

Of course I would not prefer White, Q or Cola....Wiz in Columbus is top pair dman, so thats a redundant arguement...like saying..."Well, Instead of Hossa we got Eaves"-Make it a level playing field here. If you like, I can give you an extended list of guys I would have preferred in Detroit who's talents are about the SAME as Wisneiski's....let me know if you would like that.

I have never hated TooToo- I was actually in favor of the signing which ( PUSHING THE ECHO BUTTON) why I like the Huskins signing. Big gritty guy, stands up for the team without the trailer trash shenanigans that go along with a toddler like Wiz and what, 5 million cheaper. YES, Yes, please. he isnt going to win the Norris, but he isnt a cheapshot artist with several dirty suspensions under his belt.

Character wins.

[vladdy16]

Can everyone please try to discuss their point of view without resorting to questioning the intelligence and/or parentage of someone with a differing view?  You guys should need just as much time to get warmed up to this as the players need to not look rusty.  It's too early to be suspending people, okay?

[LeftWinger]

Like Ian White, Colaiacovo, or Quincey?  Because that's exactly who you did get. 

 

Also, since when is being overly aggressive a bad thing.  Everybody hated Tootoo until yesterday.  Personally, I think some roughneck m*****f***** is exactly what we need.  How many times do we have to say, "we need someone to stand up for our stars"?  Wizniewski does, which I can't say for any member of our current defense.

maybe 50/50....a lot of us were very happy the he signed here and knew exactly what he would bring to the team...

Edited by LeftWinger, 22 January 2013 - 03:23 PM.

[Jaymister]

My thought as well. Likely Vandermeer couldn't make it by tonight, but IMO he would have been a better option for the season.

 

If you're talking about Jim Vandermeer, he's already signed with the Canucks.

[Danielsm]

I like the signing. I believe there are better options, but clearly someone at head office has convinced Holland otherwise. We need defense, not offense. Huskins is a stay at home dude, we need that.

[jeff48109]

Not sure what people are expecting. FA signings at this time of the year are pretty much slim pickings. 

 

Can everyone please try to discuss their point of view without resorting to questioning the intelligence and/or parentage of someone with a differing view?  You guys should need just as much time to get warmed up to this as the players need to not look rusty.  It's too early to be suspending people, okay?

 

if members are suspended will there be accompanying videos explaining the suspension? 

[Wings10]

Wings have a lot of cap room I am not worried in the least.

[LeftWinger]

Aggressive yes- Idiotic, classless and immature NO.

 

Of course I would not prefer White, Q or Cola....Wiz in Columbus is top pair dman, so thats a redundant arguement...like saying..."Well, Instead of Hossa we got Eaves"-Make it a level playing field here. If you like, I can give you an extended list of guys I would have preferred in Detroit who's talents are about the SAME as Wisneiski's....let me know if you would like that.

I have never hated TooToo- I was actually in favor of the signing which ( PUSHING THE ECHO BUTTON) why I like the Huskins signing. Big gritty guy, stands up for the team without the trailer trash shenanigans that go along with a toddler like Wiz and what, 5 million cheaper. YES, Yes, please. he isnt going to win the Norris, but he isnt a cheapshot artist with several dirty suspensions under his belt.

Character wins.

 

also, in all honesty, Wiz isn't gonna win a Norris either.  I was a huge proponent of sign Wiz that off season, but the money he got was too much for Detroit at the time. Plus his immature comments kind of turn me as well. Hey James, you see all these guys signing for top dollar compared to signing for less in Detriot...well who has more Cups, they top dollar guys or the guys who took less? Thanks, you are no longer a son of Michigan in my mind...

 

Well Kent, welcome to Detroit. Stay awhile, you will like it!