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Who was the last black guy to play in Detroit? Nathan Robinson?

I always pushed for Holland to get Mike Grier or Georges Laraque, but he never did.

Kenny Holland strikes me as a fella who prides himself on having proper manners.

You probably didn't say "please".

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What's being ignored in this thread so far is that Kenny doesn't need to trade for Subban to land him. He's an RFA so technically Kenny could float an offer sheet. It won't happen, but in theory he could. That also comes with the risk that the Habs would match it too and if they didn't, the Wings would lose future draft picks.

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Wouldn't we just be trading for Subban's rights? How an the price be that steep?

Look at what Toronto paid for Kessel's rights....

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What's being ignored in this thread so far is that Kenny doesn't need to trade for Subban to land him. He's an RFA so technically Kenny could float an offer sheet. It won't happen, but in theory he could. That also comes with the risk that the Habs would match it too and if they didn't, the Wings would lose future draft picks.

what's interesting is that the world knows that they're off on term years. subban wants a long term contract, while the club wants a 2 yr. yes, they're off my the millions but it's not that bad. from the start it's always been a term problem. what would be VERY interesting is if teams did throw offer sheets subbans way. would be sign one that contained a 5 yr contract? would he force the hand of montreal? in all honesty, i don't see him forcing anything because montreal already showed that they would start the season without him. they aren't budging, he's the one that isn't playing while the rest of the league is. normally when it comes to offer sheets, i would immediately say it's a bad idea because they would match asap, but it would be real interesting to see what montreal would do when an offer sheet came in regarding a 5 yr contract.

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An offer sheet for Subban would have to be absolutely ridiculous for Bergevin NOT to match it.

Very true. I wouldn't mind Kenny floating out a 7 year $6-7m contract just to force the Habs to match & screw up their cap situation like Holmgren did with Weber/Nashville.

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Subban wants Drew Doughty money.

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/21527208/nhl-rumors-pk-subban-looking-for-doughty-money-in-new-deal

That being said, would you sign Subban long term for $6 million a season? This is going to be the Albatross that hangs over any NHL team that wants to trade for him. If Subban wants the same thing from his next NHL team, will they give it to him?

Personally, I think Subban is not worth $6 million a season and a 6-7 year contract. Thats just too darn much.

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HAHAHA it would be great to see someone float Subban an offer sheet, and then screw the Habs in the process. HAHA. If nobody else can have him, at least they'll be saddled with a huge contract! :clap:

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LGW, where PK Subban isn't worth 3.5 mil, but Kyle Quincey already makes more than that.

LOL.

Yeah, because we signed him to that. Silly me, how could I not know that Kenny and the internet forum folks work hand in hand?

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Subban just texted me and said he wants to bring some soul back to Detroit!

esteef

Ah - reminds me of this commercial circa spring of 2008...

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LGW, where PK Subban isn't worth 3.5 mil, but Kyle Quincey already makes more than that.

LOL.

You do realize Quincey makes more because he took us to arbitration and we were forced to pay him that right?

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You do realize Quincey makes more because he took us to arbitration and we were forced to pay him that right?

they weren't "forced" to do anything because of arbitration. he never even made it to arbitration.

the only thing that was required was a qualifying offer of 100% of his previous deal (3.25 mil).

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they weren't "forced" to do anything because of arbitration. he never even made it to arbitration.

the only thing that was required was a qualifying offer of 100% of his previous deal (3.25 mil).

you're right, my bad. Although, you can argue his salary wouldn't have been much different in arbitration

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I agree that in a vacuum, Getzlaf > Subban. But Subban is 4 years younger, plays a much scarcer position in terms of talent, and there’s no guarantees Getzlaf would sign here (see fallout from Parise/Suter last year), whereas if they trade for Subban, they own him. I think it’s real dangerous to put your eggs in the UFA basket again unless you’re truly going to tank, and don’t really care either way because you’re trying to bottom out to get draft position. I understand that they wouldn’t have to give anything up player-wise for Getzlaf, but really, who are you going to be mad about if they traded him for Subban?

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I agree that in a vacuum, Getzlaf > Subban. But Subban is 4 years younger, plays a much scarcer position in terms of talent, and there’s no guarantees Getzlaf would sign here (see fallout from Parise/Suter last year), whereas if they trade for Subban, they own him. I think it’s real dangerous to put your eggs in the UFA basket again unless you’re truly going to tank, and don’t really care either way because you’re trying to bottom out to get draft position. I understand that they wouldn’t have to give anything up player-wise for Getzlaf, but really, who are you going to be mad about if they traded him for Subban?

kronwall, datsyuk, z, flip, howie, and brunner

edit: smith and lashoff too

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