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#61 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:52 PM

Not really.  What he's saying isn't against forum rules.  Your last couple posts however, have been (I deleted one). 

 

You guys can disagree without the insults. 

Fair enough except without the bulls***. You have any say in the matter? You watch any MJ hockey or D-I hockey? Honestly I don't care if you removed a post of mine.

 

Fair enough. Like Jonhnster9999 you probably watch no D-I hockey or MJ hockey. Cool...


Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 29 January 2013 - 11:57 PM.


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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:57 PM

No s*** sherlock? Tell me what teams in any CHL you watch? Or let alone any NCAA D-I teams you watch?

 

Please.

 

And for that matter on both questions of both leagues let's say have you watched of the last 20 years? Just curious.

I've watched about 20 Sault Ste Marie (Sproul) games this year alone and have watched a lot of jr over the years  and must admit only watched a few games D-1 hockey ever but the numbers speak for themselves. I have seen D-1 players in the World Jr Championships a lot and they are often 3rd or 4th liners or 3r pair d-men just starting their careers in the NCAA but stars for their national teams playing along side stars from the CHL.



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:02 AM

I've watched about 20 Sault Ste Marie (Sproul) games this year alone and have watched a lot of jr over the years  and must admit only watched a few games D-1 hockey ever but the numbers speak for themselves. I have seen D-1 players in the World Jr Championships a lot and they are often 3rd or 4th liners or 3r pair d-men just starting their careers in the NCAA but stars for their national teams playing along side stars from the CHL.

 

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:05 AM

Tyler Biggs is another example scoring 17 points in 37 games for Miami U last year and he has scored 40 in 43 for the Oshawa Generals this year. More than  doubling his PPG

Every player thqt has played in both the NCAA and the CHL has scored a lot more in the CHL because the competition is weaker because they are younger kinda like most players that have played in the NHL and the AHL  score more in the AHL then they do in the NHL because the competition is weaker in the AHL


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:10 AM

I'm with Mike on this one. Don't know how anyone can say they've seen CHL and NCAA and think NCAA is better. Peace.



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:21 AM

Come to think of it I can't think of any who move from the CHL to the NCAA, anybody know of any?

When a player moves from the NCAA to the CHL they are a year better than they were in the NCAA.

 

Perhaps the older players play better defensively especially with the no fighting and icing

 

College has gotten better but still does not produce the quantity and caliber of the CHL

The NCAA doesn't allow players from major jr. to play in the NCAA.

 

Charlie Coyle and Duncan Keith both moved from the NCAA to the CHL mid season and still more than doubled their PPG in the CHL

 

Older players do play better defensively but they also play better offensively that's why D-1 averages similar GPG (goals per game) as the CHL yet players that move from the NCAA to the CHL score a LOT more playing jr.

 

I agree College has gotten better but still does not produce the quantity or caliber of the CHL but college players are bigger, faster, stronger, smarter and much better hockey players than CHL players because they are older and further along in their development. A 21 yr old college player is much better than when he was 18 and an 18 yr old jr player isn't nearly as good as he will be when he is 21.


 

Not really.  What he's saying isn't against forum rules.  Your last couple posts however, have been (I deleted one). 

 

You guys can disagree without the insults. 

Fair enough except without the bulls***. You have any say in the matter? You watch any MJ hockey or D-I hockey? Honestly I don't care if you removed a post of mine.

 

Fair enough. Like Jonhnster9999 you probably watch no D-I hockey or MJ hockey. Cool...

I watch a lot of jr hockey.


Edited by Johnz96, 30 January 2013 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:25 AM

...

 

Duncan Keith never played in the CHL


Edited by number9, 30 January 2013 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:33 AM

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Duncan Keith never played in the CHL

In 02-03 Keith played for MSU and scored 9 points in 15 games and then moved mid season to play for the Kelowna Rockets where he scored 46 points in 37 games more than doubling his PPG.

Google it.


Edited by Johnz96, 30 January 2013 - 12:35 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

In 02-03 Keith played for MSU and scored 9 points in 15 games and then moved mid season to play for the Kelowna Rockets where he scored 46 points in 37 games more than doubling his PPG.

Google it.

ur rigtht that ones my bad



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:55 AM

Wow look at all the top 5 scorers coming out of the NCAA and all the young NCAA players going straight to the NHL



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:06 AM

Wow look at all the top 5 scorers coming out of the NCAA and all the young NCAA players going straight to the NHL

Actually 2 of the top 5  scorers came out of the NCAA and 5 of the top 10 came out of the NCAA. Curiously enough non of the top 10 current scorers came out of Europe except Vanek is European who played in the NCAA

2 of the top 5 current rookie scorers come from the NCAA same as CHL



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:09 AM

Actually 2 of the top 5  scorers came out of the NCAA and 5 of the top 10 came out of the NCAA. Curiously enough non of the top 10 current scorers came out of Europe except Vanek is European who played in the NCAA

2 of the top 5 current rookie scorers come from the NCAA same as CHL

Look at the top 5 scorers in the NHL over the last couple years



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:13 AM

Look at the top 5 scorers in the NHL over the last couple years

I agree College has gotten better but still does not produce the quantity or caliber of the CHL



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:48 AM

I'm sure "hopefully" more people on this website can name more CHL players that have won something compared to any NCAA players. But yet again D-I hockey is better than the CHL? LOLOL.

 

Honestly not within the last ten years the only 2 good NCAA players I can think of are Ed Belfour and Chris Chelios.

 

:huh: I am not sure if this statement is a joke or if you are serious...


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:03 AM

:huh: I am not sure if this statement is a joke or if you are serious...

 

Both. After reading some of the posts you make on here I think the same.



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

College Hockey is better overall, as it should be since players are a few years older, it's as simple as that. I guarantee if I played myself in basketball when I was 17-18 I would dominate since I'm stronger, faster and definitely smarter. It's amazing seeing the mental mistakes you make in athletics when you're a teenager, huge difference year by year IMO


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:35 PM

College Hockey is better overall, as it should be since players are a few years older, it's as simple as that. I guarantee if I played myself in basketball when I was 17-18 I would dominate since I'm stronger, faster and definitely smarter. It's amazing seeing the mental mistakes you make in athletics when you're a teenager, huge difference year by year IMO

Exactly. That's why players that move from D-1 to CHL, have a lot more success in the CHL.



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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

a decent amount of CHL players make it to the NHL before most NCAA player even think about finishing school



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

a decent amount of CHL players make it to the NHL before most NCAA player even think about finishing school

 NCAA jr and seniors that will never make the NHL are usually so much better than 16 and 17 yr olds playing jr who will



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:01 PM

Whateves you know BS

 

Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Brodeur, Roy name me five better players to come out of the NCAA? You can't

 

Oh and I'm forgetting a lot of players from the CHL too

 

Btw John you keep by passing the rule differences between the NCAA and CHL. No fighting in the NCAA no touch icing etc etc 

 

Also with the fact yes most College players are older than CHL players

 

See my first 5 players I named....


Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 24 February 2013 - 10:02 PM.






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