redwingsindiana 1 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 After watching this first few games this season, I am really starting to miss guys like Lidstrom, Rafalski and Yzerman running the Power Play. Babcock needs to focus on this area of their game. They are missing too many opportunities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Babcock needs to get Cleary the hell off the PP. He's useless. 2 DatsyukianDekes and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 CLEARY has no place on the PP. He has not ability to control the puck off the boards and face the middle of the ice. He faces the boards and loses the puck - just not enough skill or speed to warrant a place on the PP. I think eaves should get a shot in his place. We need White on the point on the 2PP unit and then it won't be so bad without Kindl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Babcock needs to get Cleary the hell off the PP. He's useless. Why is he on the team? As I said in the GDT, if we don't have anyone in the minors who can offer more than him, then we have the worst farm team in hockey. Edited February 2, 2013 by GMRwings1983 3 esteef, dirtydangles and Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Why is he on the team? As I said in the GDT, if we don't have anyone in the minors who can offer more than him, than we have the worst farm team in hockey. THIS all day. the guy is gassed. like he has nothing left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 THIS all day. the guy is gassed. like he has nothing left. Same thing with Emmerton. Do we not have anyone in the minors who can play center better than Emmerton? If not, we're in deep trouble for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonFlame 424 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Why is he on the team? As I said in the GDT, if we don't have anyone in the minors who can offer more than him, then we have the worst farm team in hockey. Cleary I think is more a case of loyalty. He's paid his dues so Babcock's got his back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Cleary I think is more a case of loyalty. He's paid his dues so Babcock's got his back. shouldnt mean he gets pp time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 kronwall and smith are supposed to be the QB kronwall has been a huge let down this season IMO even with his 4 assist on the PP. 2nd unit is worthless. bertuzzi fil and cleary. thats terrible, first unit scores or a bust. I really think they need to switch it up 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Ericsson! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Cleary I think is more a case of loyalty. He's paid his dues so Babcock's got his back. What loyalty? It's not like he was playing for free all those years in an internship. He got paid well enough for his previous contributions and now it's time to move on. This team doesn't owe him anything beyond what they've already given him. Edited February 2, 2013 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 What loyalty? It's not like he was playing for free all those years in an internship. He got paid well enough for his previous contributions and now it's time to move on. This team doesn't owe him anything beyond what they've already given him. This. everyone argued with me in the off season that we should keep him because he will score so many goals without the bummed out knee, so far I have been right and he is as useless as I have been saying. He is a millionaire, time to go elsewhere, maybe retire cleary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 This. everyone argued with me in the off season that we should keep him because he will score so many goals without the bummed out knee, so far I have been right and he is as useless as I have been saying. He is a millionaire, time to go elsewhere, maybe retire cleary he played pretty good in the playoffs. well better then he did during the season. i thought it was a sign that he would be better this season but hes worse. must have been them pain killers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 he played pretty good in the playoffs. well better then he did during the season. i thought it was a sign that he would be better this season but hes worse. must have been them pain killers. Ya, "pain killers"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 After watching this first few games this season, I am really starting to miss guys like Lidstrom, Rafalski and Yzerman running the Power Play. Babcock needs to focus on this area of their game. They are missing too many opportunities. Zetterberg runs the PP, he's usually the one with the puck. Geeze, reading these comments you'd think the Wings were 2-4-1, and not 4-2-1 (4-1-1 after the 6-0 blowout in St. Louis). Like I've been saying, this is a fun team to watch, just sit back and enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Same thing with Emmerton. Do we not have anyone in the minors who can play center better than Emmerton? If not, we're in deep trouble for the future. Difference with Emmerton is he never had anything to start with. Cleary has nothing left because he's spent it all on the ice for the time, the guy has been an absolute warrior for us, especially in the playoffs. I feel sorry for the guy, his body is totally trashed and his reward is scorn from the fans and a release in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Same thing with Emmerton. Do we not have anyone in the minors who can play center better than Emmerton? If not, we're in deep trouble for the future. I dont think Emmerton get enough ice time to warrant complaints. He does what he is supposed to, no more no less. He works hard. What does Miller do that is so great? Cleary looks done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoe 165 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Talk about a thread going way off topic Why is Emmerton and Millers name even in a power play thread? I think the power play will see a bump when White and Sammy return may sound ridiculous but they offer more options. All the eggs are in that first power play line. Gotta bring the captain or Pavel off the 1st power play and balance out the second one and stop blaming Cleary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 I think they still have faith Cleary is hitting a rough spot and are giving him ice time so he can regain some confidence. It's arguable. We'll have to see. The QB job is up for grabs for sure. It's up to the D to sort that out in Babcock's eyes. I thought it would have been Kronwall but he has had a tough time holding onto the puck and making good passes. The number of shots we are getting is pathetic. Brunner is the only guy pulling the trigger half the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Cleary's on the PP to do the net front presence. During practices he can rail deflections like no other(well, I lied, there are better ). He normally is a workhorse and can hold his own in front of the net. Is it working? Not really. The dude's banged up but to say he isn't trying out there is insane. He's trying as hard as he can, putting it all on the ice. I'm not a cleary lover, and I certainly can agree with some points, but you gotta give him SOMETHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Zetterberg runs the PP, he's usually the one with the puck. Geeze, reading these comments you'd think the Wings were 2-4-1, and not 4-2-1 (4-1-1 after the 6-0 blowout in St. Louis). Like I've been saying, this is a fun team to watch, just sit back and enjoy. Well as far as the PP goes, it's still incredibly s***ty. Fact is if we can improve on our special teams this is not a bad team at all, as 5-on-5 we've been doing quite well this season. Kronwall has been making some very bad decisions on the point, but he's still our best PP defenseman. Personally I think that if we have both Pav and Z on the same PP unit, Z should man the point with Pav controlling the play down low or along the sidewall. Brunner should either be in front of the net getting deflections/rebounds, or atleast be hanging around the slot/circles ready for one timers. He's not terrible at the point, but I feel he's somewhat wasted in that position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 324 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Why is he on the team? As I said in the GDT, if we don't have anyone in the minors who can offer more than him, then we have the worst farm team in hockey. Andersson would be great on a bottom 6 position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 I love Danny Boy but I also agree his ship has sailed. The funny thing is he will have 2-3 flashes a game where I think he still might have it and then he completely f's that up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 2, 2013 Put Ericsson on the point. He does have a hard shot, so maybe he's finally learned how to aim. 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
