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#341 GoWings1905

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Terrific news. Smith and Ericsson have been the steadiest d-men on the team. Kindl has really shown nothing in terms of development still and Quincey is lost. Hopefully White can play for certain on Tuesday. Wouldn't mind seeing Lashoff back in for Kindl if so.
 
 
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:34 PM

Well so much for that
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:43 PM

White will be our mid season blue-line acquisition. 



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:34 AM

Bottom six has to start scoring for us to be successful this season. Almost 10 games in and we have 1 point from our bottom six. Pathetic.


This illustrates the fact that we have become too reliant on plugs. I hate to sound like I am part of the negative parade, but Cleary is like Scott Gomez out there. It sucks to bench a guy who is trying hard, but Babcock needs to be realistic.

Out bottom 6 lacks an identity, and this team doesn't have lines. It's a problem. For six spots on the bottom two lines we have:

Cleary, Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Eaves, Tootoo, Emmerton, Nyquist, Sammy. Most play similar styles. Get rid of Cleary and Emmerton, drop one of Miller or Eaves (I hate to say it, its nothing against them, but they've always been similar on what they bring to the team) and bring in a faceoff specialist.

And Babcock is pretty bad at assembling lines. Datsyuk and Bertuzzi should never be separated, neither should Franzen and Zetterberg. Those lines are tge closest to having a reliable identity.

Flip is a goner, I think. He nets us a decent return. Not ideal, but he's the only roster player we have who anyone might want and who we could find a way to survive without.
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#345 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:35 AM

Only positive things I can name for this game are that Franzen and Brunner scored. Otherwise awful effort minus the first 10 minutes of the 1st.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:18 AM

This illustrates the fact that we have become too reliant on plugs. I hate to sound like I am part of the negative parade, but Cleary is like Scott Gomez out there. It sucks to bench a guy who is trying hard, but Babcock needs to be realistic.

Out bottom 6 lacks an identity, and this team doesn't have lines. It's a problem. For six spots on the bottom two lines we have:

Cleary, Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Eaves, Tootoo, Emmerton, Nyquist, Sammy. Most play similar styles. Get rid of Cleary and Emmerton, drop one of Miller or Eaves (I hate to say it, its nothing against them, but they've always been similar on what they bring to the team) and bring in a faceoff specialist.

And Babcock is pretty bad at assembling lines. Datsyuk and Bertuzzi should never be separated, neither should Franzen and Zetterberg. Those lines are tge closest to having a reliable identity.

Flip is a goner, I think. He nets us a decent return. Not ideal, but he's the only roster player we have who anyone might want and who we could find a way to survive without.

 

They won't trade Flip. He's one of the hardest working players on the team. He's also our 3rd best forward.  Trading him, especially for the cap hit he is would be a bad idea. We need more offense, and I doubt we'll get more back from a trade then what we'll lose.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:21 AM

And oh yeah everyone else playing in the division tonight wins minus us. Wonderful.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:43 AM

Playing the 2nd half of a back to back on the road, away to the BJs is just about as perfect as it gets (famous last words no doubt)

 

Famous last words indeed.  Ladies and gentleman, welcome to your 2013 Detroit Bi-polars!

 

Interesting quote from Howard Their second goal was absolute garbage. Is he blaming himself for it, or throwing Kronwall under the bus?

 

EDIT:  Nevermind, found a more complete quote on Mlive, Howard totally blaming himself 

 

“Awful, with a capital A,'' Howard said of his performance. “Just wasn't
there. I just didn't feel comfortable. Second goal was absolute
garbage. It took the wind completely out of our sails.''


Edited by Nev, 03 February 2013 - 05:03 AM.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:13 AM

I don't understand the panic mode here in the last few pages. Trade everyone? Fire everyone? 

 

We're still in a playoff spot. We lost on the 2nd night of a back to back, whatever. 

 

What sucks the most is that Smith was injured. It's getting quite ridiculous the way our guys can't stay healthy. 



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:47 AM

Even in transistion years losing against Columbus - with no offense, firpowr at all is just unacceptable. These two points could really hurt the team in the end.

 

Divisionwise there will not be a better chance to win back to back games. Now with Gustavsson, Howard and Smith a small move has to be done.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:32 AM

Famous last words indeed.  Ladies and gentleman, welcome to your 2013 Detroit Bi-polars!

 

Interesting quote from Howard Their second goal was absolute garbage. Is he blaming himself for it, or throwing Kronwall under the bus?

 

EDIT:  Nevermind, found a more complete quote on Mlive, Howard totally blaming himself 

 

“Awful, with a capital A,'' Howard said of his performance. “Just wasn't
there. I just didn't feel comfortable. Second goal was absolute
garbage. It took the wind completely out of our sails.''

 

Jimmy learned from a couple of A-list goalies to never throw his players under the bus, for sure.  He is honest with himself and this translates to his team knowing he always has their backs - even if they don't always deserve it.

 

This game was just one of those nights, CBJs wanted to win at home and the Wings let them.  Hopefully there was a lesson learned, but I wasn't particularly surprised at the let-down.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:43 AM

i turned the game off with a min left. brunner scores again damn hes serious 



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:08 AM

Wings were obviously tired from the Blues game. Bertuzzi and Cleary could barely skate out there.

 

I'm thinking that for the next back to back game, the Wings pull up a couple of the Griffins so that they have some young, fresh legs.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

apparently that went along with a decrease in his offensive appetite.

I'd be surprised if he actually could lose his offensive "appetite". But as to his offensive output I really hope that doesn't happen.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

Wings were obviously tired from the Blues game. Bertuzzi and Cleary could barely skate out there.

 

I'm thinking that for the next back to back game, the Wings pull up a couple of the Griffins so that they have some young, fresh legs.

 

im not sure why bertuzzi and cleary were tired. i didnt notice them in the blues game either

 

smith out for 2 weeks. lashoff in next game

 

kronwall needs to step his game up. or was he always this bad and lids just hid it


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Disappointing game against the 2nd worse team in the conference, now bring on the worst :rolleyes:


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

Kronwall has been cabbage for 2 years now. Since Rafalski left he went from getting better each year to taking a giant leap backwards, then is awarded a huge contract. He just looks like he has terrible hockey sense. Maybe just from all the different coaches coming and going here

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:28 PM

Kronwall has been cabbage for 2 years now. Since Rafalski left he went from getting better each year to taking a giant leap backwards, then is awarded a huge contract. He just looks like he has terrible hockey sense. Maybe just from all the different coaches coming and going here

 

And he's our big Lidstrom replacement. :no2:

 

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:03 PM

Its a treat to play the jackets on a back to back night, should have grabbed the W. Can't lose to the flames, il never hear the end of it and its the damn Flames! Wings better be ready...flamers hate losing and they lose a lot, they will come out fired up



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

I felt there was an opportunity or three for maybe Tootoo to try and spark the lack of wings effort with a scrum. jackets certainly took some liberties and never had to answer the bell for doing so. By no means am I speculating that we would have won the game but last night was the first night I was actually thinking he would fight to spark.





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