Richdg 267 Report post Posted May 10, 2014 BTW Howard's 5 on 5 PO save % was..... 952!!!!!!! that is freaking awesome. To bad he had the freaking flu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 11, 2014 Two most hated athletes in Detroit are the Wings #1 goalie and Lions' starting QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted May 11, 2014 True and always has been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Howard is just an average guy ... making someone's day by giving her flowers. Pretty cool story: Edited May 11, 2014 by RedWingsRox 1 puckloo39 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/6/2013 at 11:30 AM, Guest The Axe said: I told you all this guy was just average and would struggle without #5. Seems like the Mrazek train is leaving the station and everyone is getting on board. I punched my ticket. @Jonas Mahonas Has the train left the station yet? Or is it moving backwards? 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 Howard = Average Mrazek = Bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Howard = Average Mrazek = Bad Howard = Elite. Right Crymson? You a-hole. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, kickazz said: Howard = Elite. Right Crymson? You a-hole. Someone should ban him for writing that drivel. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said: Someone should ban him for writing that drivel. What did he end up getting banned for anyway 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 10, 2018 On 4/28/2013 at 5:29 PM, kickazz said: He didn't carry the team to the playoffs. It was a collective effort from the whole team, especially Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, AND Howard. Franzen with 7 goals in past few weeks, Zetterberg with 2 goals and 9 points in 4 games and Datsyuk somwhere similar with 10 points or so this past week. Without the offense, there is no winning. Without a goalie, there is no winning. Collective effort, all the leaders stepped up. Please stick to the facts kind sir. Lol keep your pants on there young fella. 1 1 Jonas Mahonas and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 10:34 PM, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Howard = Average Mrazek = Bad You're laughable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Hockeymom1960 said: You're laughable Ad hominem attacks. The last resort of someone who can't defend their position. "Boohoo Petr sucks and I can't come to grips with reality" Get over it and observe the rules. Quote DO post constructively. If you can't add anything meaningful to a discussion, don't bother. DON'T personally attack other members. This includes name-calling, flame-baiting, etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 On 12/10/2013 at 7:40 AM, number9 said: Mrazek's only 21. Gotta think Monster will have 2-4 more years here in the D, unless we end up going with Petr over Jimmy Ohh hoooo did we ever. @ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 The Karlsson idiocy at Ottawa made me think...is there actually any good goalie, who is not already getting closer to his 40s (yes, Henrik...sorry..), whose GM might be dumb enough to trade him? And at what price? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Datsyukian Deke said: The Karlsson idiocy at Ottawa made me think...is there actually any good goalie, who is not already getting closer to his 40s (yes, Henrik...sorry..), whose GM might be dumb enough to trade him? And at what price? Here is a list of starters, i'll bold the one's I could see being traded (not necessarily that I would want). I'm sure anyone COULD be traded, but im talking for nothing significant in return. Anaheim John Gibson Arizona Antti Raanta Boston Tuukka Rask Buffalo Robin Lehner Calgary Mike Smith Carolina Cam Ward Chicago Corey Crawford Colorado Semyon Varlamov Columbus Sergei Bobrovsky Dallas Ben Bishop Detroit Jimmy Howard Edmonton Cameron Talbot Florida Roberto Luongo L.A. Jonathan Quick Minnesota Devan Dubnyk Montreal Carey Price Nashville Pekka Rinne New Jersey Cory Schneider New York I Jaroslav Halak New York R Henrik Lundqvist Ottawa Craig Anderson Philadelphia Brian Elliott Pittsburgh Matt Murray San Jose Martin Jones St. Louis Jake Allen Tampa Bay Andrei Vasilevskiy Toronto Frederik Andersen Vancouver Jacob Markstrom Vegas Marc-Andre Fleury Washington Braden Holtby Winnipeg Connor Hellebuyck Edited March 2, 2018 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) Well...those give me at least one of: a) no clear update, b) age concerns or c) health concerns. Edited March 2, 2018 by The Datsyukian Deke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Datsyukian Deke said: Well...those give me at least one of: a) no clear update, b) age concerns or c) health concerns. If the Wings were to dump Howard and acquire one of the above, the best choice may be Antti Raanta. No injury concerns that I know of, he's 28, and considering where he plays, he has pretty good stats. Did great as a backup in NY and Chicago. He's actually a UFA this summer. Edited March 2, 2018 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, The Datsyukian Deke said: The Karlsson idiocy at Ottawa made me think...is there actually any good goalie, who is not already getting closer to his 40s (yes, Henrik...sorry..), whose GM might be dumb enough to trade him? And at what price? What does Karlsson have to do with a good goalie being available? Why would we trade for a goalie? Am I missing something?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) All Karlsson got to do with it is, that him becoming available out of nowhere made me just think, who else might be. Who could be willing to blow up their team after missing playoffs, underperforming, whatever? ... And why would we trade for a goalie? Because our goalie is just not good enough to win a cup. The only argument for keeping Jimmy and not doing anything is...as long as we dont have all the other required parts, the goalie alone wont win us anything. On the other hand..you look at the teams winning the Cups recently, they all had a legit 1C, legit 1D and a Top10 goalie (or a goalie, who skyrocketed into those heights just for that respective playoff run). Since Jimmy tends to become worse come playoff time, I'm not overly optimistic there... We dont have any of that parts (Hank is great, but declining, and Larkin is still some years away) and you know what? It might be a good idea to start getting them. Edited March 2, 2018 by The Datsyukian Deke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Datsyukian Deke said: All Karlsson got to do with it is, that him becoming available out of nowhere made me just think, who else might be. Who could be willing to blow up their team after missing playoffs, underperforming, whatever? ... And why would we trade for a goalie? Because our goalie is just not good enough to win a cup. The only argument for keeping Jimmy and not doing anything is...as long as we dont have all the other required parts, the goalie alone wont win us anything. On the other hand..you look at the teams winning the Cups recently, they all had a legit 1C, legit 1D and a Top10 goalie (or a goalie, who skyrocketed into those heights just for that respective playoff run). Since Jimmy tends to become worse come playoff time, I'm not overly optimistic there... We dont have any of that parts (Hank is great, but declining, and Larkin is still some years away) and you know what? It might be a good idea to start getting them. Karlsson is available because Eugene Melnyk is a terrible owner. No other team in the league is dumb enough to offload a franchise defenseman, goalie or any position, in their prime. Sure there may be better goalies to be had for a price, but Howard is fine for now. This team isn't anywhere close to contending, so why spend assets for an insignificant upgrade in net? We need to be patient, draft and develop. Best case scenario, we're three years away from contending for a Cup. Hopefully Larsson or Petruzzelli is ready by then, or shortly after. If I'm Holland, I'm keeping Howard for another year, trade him at next year's deadline and shop for a cheap stop gap the following off-season, assuming Coreau or some other unknown doesn't emerge as the goalie of the future before then... Unfortunately, we just traded away the goalie that could have been that, but whatever. Keep Howard for now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Karlsson is available because Eugene Melnyk is a terrible owner. No other team in the league is dumb enough to offload a franchise defenseman, goalie or any position, in their prime. Sure there may be better goalies to be had for a price, but Howard is fine for now. This team isn't anywhere close to contending, so why spend assets for an insignificant upgrade in net? We need to be patient, draft and develop. Best case scenario, we're three years away from contending for a Cup. Hopefully Larsson or Petruzzelli is ready by then, or shortly after. If I'm Holland, I'm keeping Howard for another year, trade him at next year's deadline and shop for a cheap stop gap the following off-season, assuming Coreau or some other unknown doesn't emerge as the goalie of the future before then... Unfortunately, we just traded away the goalie that could have been that, but whatever. Keep Howard for now... Agreed. I will say though, if we could sign Raanta for cheap (say 2-3 mil) I would do it and then trade Howard at the deadline. Then the following year bring Howard back as the backup (1-2 mil) and we would be set. Raanta/Howard at 5mil total would be nice. Wont happen, I know that lol. I'm sure some team will overpay for Raanta. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 How often has that "bringing back players, who we just recently shipped out at the deadline, in the following offseason"-thing, that is brought up so frequently, actually happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Datsyukian Deke said: How often has that "bringing back players, who we just recently shipped out at the deadline, in the following offseason"-thing, that is brought up so frequently, actually happened? Not often, but it does happen. The Leafs did it with Daniel Winnik, but thats all I can think about off the top of my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 Howard is garbage. Slightly above-average at best. Often injured. We might as well just ride it out with Coreau Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 2, 2018 2 hours ago, kylee said: Howard is garbage. Slightly above-average at best. Often injured. We might as well just ride it out with Coreau Agreed. Tankit. 2 Jonas Mahonas and marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites