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State of Hockey; High school drama

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I can't stand attitudes like this. All of this is easy to say from behind a keyboard. And maybe they did, we don't know. It's just fun to judge so we're judging. Like I said it's probably just him being a stupid kid but we don't know. I just know that it's not always cut and dried and sometimes roles can reverse and actions can become justified with a little more info.

Wrong. There is absolutely no place in hockey for a move like that. No place in team sport of any kind. No justification whatsoever. Nobody needs to know the story, because none of them end like that except the "He's a ******* idiot" story.

If you don't agree with what is going on, or if you feel you have been wronged, let them know why you will not be suiting up.

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Wrong. There is absolutely no place in hockey for a move like that. No place in team sport of any kind. No justification whatsoever. Nobody needs to know the story, because none of them end like that except the "He's a ******* idiot" story.

If you don't agree with what is going on, or if you feel you have been wronged, let them know why you will not be suiting up.

No thanks, I'd rather wait to make my judgment. I'm not so blind and arrogant as to assume that because I don't see something, it isn't there.

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This is HIS side of the story from his Facebook page:

They played this sophomore goalie for the starter(I'm a condescending prick that won't even refer to an underclassman teammate by name), he was terrible(I'm an entitled know it all prick with inflated self worth) , I would try and talk to the coaches about this and tell them I want playing time but they never really listen to me or gave me a chance to show them that I'm a better goalie but still wouldn't trust me(I'm a lazy, no talent sack of crap that has been pumped up by my friends/family so I think I'm great) so I had it it with(I have the heart & balls of a mouse) I asked a few of my players if they care if I did it and they didn't care they thought it would be funny(seeing as how they are immature like me & didn't figure I would be as retarded as to cost them the game if I wasn't B.S.ing) so at the third period they dumped it in I stopped it put in my net started to skate off then flicked the coaches not the team the coaches then I saluted them then got off.”

More than likely a kid who has been raised by parents to think he should get everything he wants when he wants and when he doesn't get his way, it's everyone else's fault, not his and when you don't get your way act like a disrepectful dumbass...So what happens when he's in college and gets a crappy professor? Or in the workplace and has a crappy boss? Flip them off and because mommy and daddy think he deserves a better grade or a better job? It shows his true colors and character.

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No thanks, I'd rather wait to make my judgment. I'm not so blind and arrogant as to assume that because I don't see something, it isn't there.

Blind and arrogance has nothing to do with it. A lot of people have committed a lot of time, energy, and of course $, to compete on that hockey team and he sabbotaged and betrayed them.

No it's not the end of the world, but that doesn't make it any less wrong.

It's one thiing to have a vendetta against a coach, but it's absolutely wrong to betray the entire team.

If he has a beef with a coach, man up and talk to the coach, or sucker punch the coach in the back of the head or slice his tires, or whatever cowardly way he wants to do it, but nothing justifys screwing your teammates and their parents in a game like that.

Hopefully the kid will regret this, and be very embarrassed about doing it, and will learn to deal with authority in a more constructive way. Otherwise, this will not be the last we hear of him.

Ok, Ok, if you were waiting to hear that the entire team locked him in his locker everyday and pee'd on him, then maybe I can see your point...but 99.99% of the time it's only one douchebag, not an entire team of douchebags.

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Like I said I'd rather wait. You wouldn't. You make assumptions. I don't. Good for you. Move along.

Just elaborating on my point on a discussion board. You don't need to be condescending and tell me to move along, like you tell Playmaker you hate his attitude. If we were at a pub discussing it over beers you wouldn't talk that way to my face, so why be rude on LGW?

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The person in question, in his own words, stated what the issue was. He thought he was better and wanted to play more. While I haven't personally checked this out, read on another hockey board that his stats weren't any better than the sophomore, and he didn't get significantly less playing time either. Sometimes, yes, better players DO sit...you know why? ATTITUDE...Perhaps the coaches saw his piss poor attitude all along. Unless he he was getting a Jerry Sandusky treatment from his coaches...his actions were inexcusable and it made him look like a selfish spoiled brat who didn't get his way...

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If my child did that on any other night(let alone senior night), there is no way in hell he would be going to senior prom, or any senior based functions, including post graduation activities or parties. You want to behave like spoiled little child and act like an embarrassment and have no class.

Then I simply cannot trust you in any situation.

And until I can trust you again, no spring sports, no school activities. To school and home that is it!!

The problem here is his dad/mom is probably the one in his ear telling him he is Patty Roy reincarnate. People used to say "Hockey Parents are the worst they are so competitive".

I always thought hockey parents got a bad rep, because as a former educator and coach, all sports have numerous parents who think their child is the best and have no issue telling the coach, other coaches, teachers, parents, the french fry guy or anyone who will listen to how great their child is.

Remember this kid is a product of the environment he grew up in, I would assume his mom or dad are very proud of him right now.

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Then I simply cannot trust you in any situation.

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This kinda made me laugh... oops.

Okay but serious and this is no joke. I played summer hockey about 4 or 5 years old so I would of been 14 years old and I was on a summer team. We had a hot head on our team that would always start line fights were punches were being throw and everything. Well one time a kid ran one of our players from behind right in front of our bench. A player on the bench jumped over the boards and took a run and crushed him from behind, kid got up and gave the middle finger to us and called us all a bunch of ******* *****. After the game the kid had to come into our locker room with his dad and apologize to every single player on my team.

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I'm pretty sure he got suspended for it. Or at least for flipping off his coaches.

I sure hope not. School administrators put there nose where it doesnt belong in terms of discipline to many times. Suspending kids for what they put on facebook and the such. If it doesnt happen on school property they can F off. And really flipping someone off it minor compared to the crap that goes on at school nowadays.

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I sure hope not. School administrators put there nose where it doesnt belong in terms of discipline to many times. Suspending kids for what they put on facebook and the such. If it doesnt happen on school property they can F off. And really flipping someone off it minor compared to the crap that goes on at school nowadays.

He was playing for his high school team and flipped off his coaches, so their nose did belong there. He did get suspended for 10 days and deservedly so.

http://www.farmingtonindependent.com/event/article/id/22263/

It may seem minor compared to other things that go on at school, but it hardly sends the right message to tolerate that kind of behavior from students.

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He was playing for his high school team and flipped off his coaches, so their nose did belong there. He did get suspended for 10 days and deservedly so.

http://www.farmingtonindependent.com/event/article/id/22263/

It may seem minor compared to other things that go on at school, but it hardly sends the right message to tolerate that kind of behavior from students.

They couldnt give two s***s that he flipped off the coach. They are mad he scored on his own goal. They basically say so in the article: "“This action has had a immediate and dramatic impact on the Farmington boys hockey team and the entire Farmington community."

Your telling me the community and team were impacted by him flipping off his coach? No they were effected because the team lost. And that is where the administrators should keep there nose out of. What happens in the game itself. And 10 days is a joke. Most kids get 2-3 max for fighting and detention if they get caught smoking. Your telling me what this kid did is worse than both of those?

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They couldnt give two s***s that he flipped off the coach. They are mad he scored on his own goal. They basically say so in the article: "“This action has had a immediate and dramatic impact on the Farmington boys hockey team and the entire Farmington community."

Your telling me the community and team were impacted by him flipping off his coach? No they were effected because the team lost. And that is where the administrators should keep there nose out of. What happens in the game itself. And 10 days is a joke. Most kids get 2-3 max for fighting and detention if they get caught smoking. Your telling me what this kid did is worse than both of those?

How could you possibly know that?

It was his high school team. He pulled a stupid and embarrassing stunt while playing on his high school team and disrespected school coaches. As for the length of suspension, I don't really know what their standard is. 10 days seems long but the kid basically did get their whole program national if not international attention, and not in a good way.

I don't know why it's so hard to understand that the administrators should absolutely be involved when it's the school's hockey team.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for the great injustice being perpetrated on this obnoxious kid who saw fit to act that way and even planned it ahead of time. It wasn't a heat of the moment decision.

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How could you possibly know that?

Its a pretty darn safe assumption and common sense if you read the quote from the district: “This action has had a immediate and dramatic impact on the Farmington boys hockey team and the entire Farmington community."

Now had they only cared about the flipping off they would have listed the reason for his suspension as using obscene gestures or the like. No they say that the action had an immediate and dramatic impact of the team and the community. So your telling me flipping the bird is an immediate and dramatic impact to an entire team but also a whole community. Thats BS. The only thing that impacted the team was the goal against himself. Now shooting the puck in your own net, while very stupid, is in no ways against the rules of hockey. Show me a rule where it says he cant? So if he does something in the game that is not against the rules of said game how can he then be disciplined for that action? That is the injustice.

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Its a pretty darn safe assumption and common sense if you read the quote from the district: “This action has had a immediate and dramatic impact on the Farmington boys hockey team and the entire Farmington community."

Now had they only cared about the flipping off they would have listed the reason for his suspension as using obscene gestures or the like. No they say that the action had an immediate and dramatic impact of the team and the community. So your telling me flipping the bird is an immediate and dramatic impact to an entire team but also a whole community. Thats BS. The only thing that impacted the team was the goal against himself. Now shooting the puck in your own net, while very stupid, is in no ways against the rules of hockey. Show me a rule where it says he cant? So if he does something in the game that is not against the rules of said game how can he then be disciplined for that action? That is the injustice.

You keep saying "you're telling me" as if I've actually said those things. I haven't.

If you really need me to explain to you why a high school hockey player putting the puck in his own net and flipping off his coaches during a game is something that should be punished by the school, then this really is a pointless conversation.

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They played this sophomore goalie for the starter, he was terrible, I would try and talk to the coaches about this and tell them I want playing time but they never really listen to me or gave me a chance to show them that I'm a better goalie but still wouldn't trust me so I had it it with I asked a few of my players if they care if I did it and they didn't care they thought it would be funny so at the third period they dumped it in I stopped it put in my net started to skate off then flicked the coaches not the team the coaches then I saluted them then got off.”

Kid needs to spend a little more in time in English class learning punctuation before, or if, he graduates.

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