Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but Ian White has been complete garbage this year. He's decent on the PP, but Smith can take his spot when he gets back. The biggest complaint I have about White is that he can't make the first pass to save his life. Every time he gets the puck in the defensive zone he blindly throws it up the boards and 90% of the time it gets stopped at the blue line by the other team. It's about time to put Huskins back in the line up and put White in the press box with tapes to watch illustrating how you make a break out pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoobiedoobin 138 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Since I'm sure this is in response to the penalty he took, that was NOT a penalty. That was a ref tripping a STL player and White was closeby. It doesn't have to be a penalty in the NHL today, it just has to look like one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Since I'm sure this is in response to the penalty he took, that was NOT a penalty. That was a ref tripping a STL player and White was closeby. It doesn't have to be a penalty in the NHL today, it just has to look like one. It's not in response to the penalty at all. It's every time he gets the puck he just gives it back to the other team. I never even said anything about the penalties he takes. Watch him closely, he can't make the first pass and he often ices the puck. It's hard to watch him right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 There's a reason several teams have passed on him like a joint. He won't sit, because we have too many injuries, not enough defensemen in the minors, and Quincey should also be sat. Not enough bodies at the end of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoobiedoobin 138 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Don't worry I'm watching. I'm noticing Kindl tonight in a bad way. PP tying goal Kindl just lost his man randomly. Breakaway he let his man behind him. I've seen people calling him our best defender along with E. Not tonight. Not in the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 There's a reason several teams have passed on him like a joint. He won't sit, because we have too many injuries, not enough defensemen in the minors, and Quincey should also be sat. Not enough bodies at the end of the day. Where's Huskins? At least he hits and blocks shots. Thank god Kindl is actually playing decent. Our D is not doing good if White can play this bad and not get the Whitney treatment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Where's Huskins? At least he hits and blocks shots. Thank god Kindl is actually playing decent. Our D is not doing good if White can play this bad and not get the Whitney treatment. Yeah, I'd play Huskins, but they already know what they have with him. White was our "big" free agent move several offseasons ago (yikes), and Quincey was the trade from last year. Lashoff is a minor league guy they want to try out. Huskins is naturally being sat over those players, since he's just some quick fix we signed to have more bodies. And he's older than those players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Yeah, I'd play Huskins, but they already know what they have with him. White was our "big" free agent move several offseasons ago (yikes), and Quincey was the trade from last year. Lashoff is a minor league guy they want to try out. Huskins is naturally being sat over those players, since he's just some quick fix we signed to have more bodies. And he's older than those players. But in an interview a number of games back, Babcock said the players play dictates their icetime. Apparently they all laughed at that message. I can't wait until this team is healthy and we see less White, Cleary and Quincey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Quincey should sit before White, lets get that done then we can talk Ian 3 Dominator2005, redwings15 and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Let's go ahead and sit White. Play Samuelsson at the point when he comes back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 White is the least of our problems! He has been spotty but man, our issues are much deeper than White 1 Cloune reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tr!PoD#19 524 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 White is the least of our problems! He has been spotty but man, our issues are much deeper than White No kidding. Kronwall, Quincey & Lashoff were just as bad, if not worse than White tonight.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 guy is supposed to be our offensive defense men. put up points. hes got 2 otherwise i have no problems with him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Where is Kent Huskins? Quincey needs to sit. Kronwall has looked mediocre, to be nice. At least Kindl is playing solid. Edited February 14, 2013 by Bring Back The Bruise Bros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoobiedoobin 138 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Where is Kent Huskins? Quincey needs to sit. Kronwall has looked mediocre, to be nice. At least Kindl is playing solid. Not this game he didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 White's been fine. Q has to go, I've defended the guy for a while now but he's just a trainwreck. 2 esteef and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) White's been fine. Q has to go, I've defended the guy for a while now but he's just a trainwreck. Problem with Q (other than he is garbage) is he will never live up to being worth a 1st rounder...it's almost like Holland thought he was outbidding a phantom GM last March when he threw the 1st rounder at Yzerman... I think White is White....he is playing much like he was last season when Lidstrom whet out. Q and K are hot garbage... Edited February 14, 2013 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 I thought White looked alright this game. Plays positionally well with Big E. Quincey looked like butt smear and Kindl just cannot get a shot through to save his life. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Problem with Q (other than he is garbage) is he will never live up to being worth a 1st rounder...it's almost like Holland thought he was outbidding a phantom GM last March when he threw the 1st rounder at Yzerman... I think White is White....he is playing much like he was last season when Lidstrom whet out. Q and K are hot garbage... Grouping K with Q is an insult to K. I think Kindl has been pretty decent ..not Norris caliber by any means but fairly solid. As for Q he is falling into my Dan Cleary category. Just looks lost..used to be a pretty good passer and had a bit of a physical edge. Those things are non existent now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 Nevermind sitting White, he has been pretty solid back there for us, but Quincy had another God awful game tonight as did Cleary. Babcock seriously needs to consider sitting those 2. If I was the coach they would have been sitting long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 White had several bad moments tonight. I'm not sure who was worse Quincey or White. The worst thing he did was nearly get E killed by 2 blues instead of just passing it up the boards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted February 14, 2013 White is slow and gets pushed around. He should not bw re-signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 No kidding. Kronwall, Quincey & Lashoff were just as bad, if not worse than White tonight.. Leave Lashoff out of this, he has been solid since being called up from the minors, let's give him a chance, 1 bad game is nothing to cry over. Quincey however has had maybe 1 good game since joining the roster, White was good last year and has been decent so far, but he's a third pairing guy. Kronwall hasn't been able to find his edge so far, he is trying to do too much, but I am not worried about him, he has been progressing, and will return to old form soon enough. Kindl, we should worry about though, him and Quincey have no place on our roster anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) You guys should take a look at the stat sheet sometime. Quincey leads the team in blocked shots, and since the first 3 games of the season has been +10. Overall he is top 20 among all defence in the NHL in +/- and he leads our entire team in the stat. Kronwall has amazingly managed to be on the ice for more goals against than anyone on the team not just at even strength but also while shorthanded and while on the PP. He may have the most points of our defenceman but he's also one of only 2 defenceman on the roster who are - players, the other being Lashoff. Even in tonights game he was directly responsible for 2 goals, including the overtime goal. If anything White should be getting more ice-time, his pairing with Ericsson tonight was by far the best tandem on the ice Edited February 14, 2013 by FlashyG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFwingsfan 23 Report post Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) There's a reason several teams have passed on him like a joint. woah, the real question here is who passes up a joint? Edited February 14, 2013 by SFwingsfan 1 BigWillieStyle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites