The Greek 323 Report post Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) THIS defensive corps. You mean this defensive corps that has allowed five goals over four games. I see it as nothing more than not messing with success. Babcock will probably shake things up when it stops working. Edited March 7, 2013 by The Greek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 7, 2013 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/03/red_wings_ian_white_hasnt_aske.html Wings said he still figures into their plans, and he hasn't asked for a trade, but I gotta think his value these days is more if he is moved. Kindl has come around in the last few games and played great, Smith is back healthy, Kronner and Ericsson aren't going anywhere, Lashoff makes this team much better, and Quincey has steadied himself, sitting +11. Huskins is a good 7th d-man, and we still have Colaiacovo on IR to look forward to. Fact is, this team has been better since White has been sitting, and if he isn't playing Top-4 minutes we are better to trade him as a rental and get some help scoring or some picks in return. Might as well thank the guy for a few decent years by being honest with him and moving him somewhere he'll actually play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,474 Report post Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/03/red_wings_ian_white_hasnt_aske.html Wings said he still figures into their plans, and he hasn't asked for a trade, but I gotta think his value these days is more if he is moved. Kindl has come around in the last few games and played great, Smith is back healthy, Kronner and Ericsson aren't going anywhere, Lashoff makes this team much better, and Quincey has steadied himself, sitting +11. Huskins is a good 7th d-man, and we still have Colaiacovo on IR to look forward to. Fact is, this team has been better since White has been sitting, and if he isn't playing Top-4 minutes we are better to trade him as a rental and get some help scoring or some picks in return. Might as well thank the guy for a few decent years by being honest with him and moving him somewhere he'll actually play. "figures into their plans"? hmmm possible trade coming? Edited March 7, 2013 by Euro_Twins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted March 8, 2013 Wow, White scratched again tonight, that's like 4 in a row, right? What is the deal with this guy? Can they flip him for a conditional pick or something? Dude was a +22 last year and had pretty good production numbers. I've never been much of a fan of him, but his play must have been unusually infuriating that he can't crack THIS defensive corps. I feel like every was pooping all over Quincey and Kindl earlier this year, and it's White who can't even play now. Wings started winning when White's garbage turnovers a general weakness left the line up. Chemistry is running the Wings blueline now and even Q is playing good hockey, aside from his brain fart against the Hawks trying to take a clapper in the slot on a bouncing puck to clear it. In the words of Ricky from Trailer Park Boys..... I f***in' toad-a-so, f***in' toad-a-so! As for his +22, a pylon could be +22 on the other side of Lidstrom's blue line. And Kindl may have just had his best game in the NHL, so White is baggage at this point that you couldn't care less if it was lost at the airport. "figures into their plans"? hmmm possible trade coming? Time to take trim the fat. 2 SaCkaveli20 and b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Gotta think we are going to trade White now. Is he a healthy scratch today too? Edited March 9, 2013 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadian wings fan 305 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 i'll be pissed if Kindl is a scratch for 1 of these Columbus games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 i'll be pissed if Kindl is a scratch for 1 of these Columbus games Doubt it. Kindl has been playing great.. I didn't think I'd ever say it but I'm starting to like him. Hope he keeps up the good work 2 SaCkaveli20 and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 I'd like to see him get some time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 I'd like to see him get some time soon. Same here. But our current line up is playing good.. So while I'd like to see white play, I'd rather us go with what's working. Don't fix it if it hasn't broken yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,458 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 I must be in the minority here because I don't care if I ever see Ian White play for this team again. Not because I have anything against White, but because he's not really better at anything than anybody else in our lineup is. 4 Z Winged Dangler, nuts2u, unsaddleddonald and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 I must be in the minority here because I don't care if I ever see Ian White play for this team again. Not because I have anything against White, but because he's not really better at anything than anybody else in our lineup is. I suppose you could say one of the advantages he has is that he's a right-handed shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 I must be in the minority here because I don't care if I ever see Ian White play for this team again. Not because I have anything against White, but because he's not really better at anything than anybody else in our lineup is. I'm with ya. The defense is better without him. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,458 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 I suppose you could say one of the advantages he has is that he's a right-handed shot. It's not really an advantage over anyone aside from maybe Kindl, who's player better in every other way. Kronwall is a lefty but he's scoring like gangbusters, Smith is a righty and is bigger and more athletic. And the other guys are defensive defensemen and therefore not interchangeable with White. So essentially he's competing with Kindl, who's bigger, faster, stronger, hits harder, and is scoring more this season. If a righty is worth all that to Babs or Holland they need to retire. 1 nuts2u reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 It's not really an advantage over anyone aside from maybe Kindl, who's player better in every other way. Kronwall is a lefty but he's scoring like gangbusters, Smith is a righty and is bigger and more athletic. And the other guys are defensive defensemen and therefore not interchangeable with White. So essentially he's competing with Kindl, who's bigger, faster, stronger, hits harder, and is scoring more this season. If a righty is worth all that to Babs or Holland they need to retire. Smith is a lefty... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings15 47 Report post Posted March 9, 2013 Quincey is terrible. His passes are flimsy. He turns it over often. He misplayed the puck and was directly responsible for CBS's third goal tonight. The guy can't even catch a pass. White should be in instead of Quincey. Plus, White's a right hand shot and should go back and help the second PP unit, if not replace Brunner on the point on the first PP unit. Brunner is not that great there. Kronwall should be on the trading block too. Doesn't seem like he's leading the D corps. Losing to Columbus pisses me off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 10, 2013 i'll be pissed if Kindl is a scratch for 1 of these Columbus games Sitting Lashoff for White today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted March 10, 2013 Quincey is terrible. His passes are flimsy. He turns it over often. He misplayed the puck and was directly responsible for CBS's third goal tonight. The guy can't even catch a pass. White should be in instead of Quincey. Plus, White's a right hand shot and should go back and help the second PP unit, if not replace Brunner on the point on the first PP unit. Brunner is not that great there. Kronwall should be on the trading block too. Doesn't seem like he's leading the D corps. Losing to Columbus pisses me off. You sir do not know what you are talking about. Kronwall not leading the D core? He is 3rd in scoring in the league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted March 10, 2013 White hasnt impressed me tonight. Lashoff wins on pure physicality alone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 white didnt look terrible but didnt help the offensive. id prefer lashoff for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 it seemed like white second guessed a lot of his outlet passes which caused for the lane to close up before utilizing it. he didn't stand out or impress me retrieving the puck. all in all, he didn't play that big of a game to convince Babcock he needs to be out there. I'd prefer Lashoff and his ability to play physical, clear the crease, and stand by the basics when it comes to the transition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 White would probably do better on a team that's all about offense first, but for what he brings, he really just doesn't fit on this team. I'd rather see the Wings play several shutdown guys who make the simple play than have him out there getting beat along the wall and throwing errant passes up the middle. 1 Anijuice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 White wasn't impressive at all yesterday. Time to trade Ian White? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 I must be in the minority here because I don't care if I ever see Ian White play for this team again. Not because I have anything against White, but because he's not really better at anything than anybody else in our lineup is. I hope the only reason they put him in instead of Lashoff is so teams don't forget his name at the trade deadline and that he can be had for a bag of pucks, or peanuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,458 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 I hope the only reason they put him in instead of Lashoff is so teams don't forget his name at the trade deadline and that he can be had for a bag of pucks, or peanuts. Babcock explicitly said in the pregame that it didn't have anything to do with Lashoff's play, but that they wanted "a change, just for one game", or something to that effect. Lashoff will be back soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted March 11, 2013 White hasnt impressed me tonight. Lashoff wins on pure physicality alone We have enough physical players in our line up . Hitting is for *******! Lets move the puck if it's not intercepted and then dump and don't chase. That's what we did against the BJ's all weekend. At least we know that White was not the answer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites