St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Tough one to swallow after being up 2-0. PP is awful and let's us down again when we need it to come through. Surprise surprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 For how terrible Minny is supposed to be, won't they leapfrog us tonightin the standings with a win? Edited due to autocorrect stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Because he was absolutely awful the first few games and wasn't very good the end of last season. Once a player becomes a scapegoat he's doomed for a long while. Some people here are still bashing Ericsson for his play. Quincey hasn't scored a point all season, and for his price tag and that first round pick, that's pathetic. Can't believe people are defending him because of plus/minus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Sick of players playing horrible getting rewarded with more minutes. If we can see Cleary is playing terrible out there, how can babcock not? They watch tape after tape after tape breaking down games. I'm sure 20 seconds into the tape you will see all you need to see. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 For how terrible Minny is supposed to be, won't they leapfrog us tonightin the standings with a win? Edited due to autocorrect stupidity. Mommy? What were you doing before you joined this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tr!PoD#19 524 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Stop looking at plus/minus. This is a perfect example of why the stat is often misleading. Ericsson and Lashoff have been our most consistent which kinda tells the season story this far... I'm looking at his play. Apart from the first few games, he's been solid. I have no idea, nor do I give a f*** what his plus minus is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldfrenchfries 2 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 I think it's because Cleary can usually be relied on to turn things around last minute... yet he still seems to be having an off-day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Sick of players playing horrible getting rewarded with more minutes. If we can see Cleary is playing terrible out there, how can babcock not? They watch tape after tape after tape breaking down games. I'm sure 20 seconds into the tape you will see all you need to see. He must have dirt on Babs. Or else he's sleeping with the right people. Maybe both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 For how terrible Minny is supposed to be, won't they leapfrog us tonightin the standings with a win? Edited due to autocorrect stupidity. Haha, you caught it but thanks for the laugh there. I needed it after watching that period. 1 VM1138 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Quincey hasn't scored a point all season, and for his price tag and that first round pick, that's pathetic. Can't believe people are defending him because of plus/minus. Well those things are Holland's fault, not Quincey's. And don't get me wrong he's not performing like I'd hope he would. All I'm saying is once the ball gets rolling here bashing a player, they get blamed for everything. Quincey's not been great, but he's not been as awful as people are making it sound either. I'm looking at his play. Apart from the first few games, he's been solid. I have no idea, nor do I give a f*** what his plus minus is. Ditto. I had no idea Quincey had a good +/-. It's the most useless stat in hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Haha, you caught it but thanks for the laugh there. I needed it after watching that period. I thought about leaving the original word in for the fun of it, Haha. 1 GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 as long as we're pointing out +/-, Kronwall is a -9 which is tied for worst in the whole league does anyone here think Quincey(+7) is better than Kronwall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 I thought about leaving the original word in for the fun of it, Haha. That was a great autocorrect. I cracked up when I saw it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 this team got problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Who called the rookie getting his first goal against the Wings by the way? It's crazy how often that seems to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 I think it's because Cleary can usually be relied on to turn things around last minute... yet he still seems to be having an off-day. Cleary's having an off decade. 1 CaliforniaWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,916 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 I just meant I hate Q in general, not that he was bad tonight. Seto still needs his mouth cranked... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Cleary's having an off decade. Cleary has been a consistent 30-40 point guy with 15-20 goals for six of his eight seasons with the Wings. That's pretty solid. It's just this year he looks completely gassed all the time, especially if he's actually healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,916 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Just what is Fil supposed to do with Cleary and Sammy on his line? 2 datterberg1340 and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Just what is Fil supposed to do with Cleary and Sammy on his line? Expiate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Sammy is terrible, I can't let my kids watching this... Edited February 18, 2013 by Dominator2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Our 2nd line sucks balls tonight. Not surprising Edited February 18, 2013 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Cleary has been good for 1 game this year. Sammy can't be blamed for anything just yet... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Brutal hit by Rupp on Tatar I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted February 18, 2013 Cleary has been a consistent 30-40 point guy with 15-20 goals for six of his eight seasons with the Wings. That's pretty solid. It's just this year he looks completely gassed all the time, especially if he's actually healthy. this decade, as in after 2010. he's been a skating band-aid and now he can't manage to do anything at all with the puck, unless you count his 1 goal/point this year and this is the 15th game of the season. Cleary used to be good, but it's a what have you done for me lately league and the answer is take up a roster spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites