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[FlashyG]

The league can't enforce rules differently for different players. Despite Datsyuks abilities playing the puck with his skates, 99 times out of 100 the linesman would blow that play offside because while letting a puck bounce off your skate may lead to control, its far from having the puck in your possession.

 

I don't think it was a case of the linesman thinking he had control of the puck, I think it was a close play and one of the few where the linesman just misjudged whether the skates or the puck crossed the line first.

 

Regardless though I'm glad it was missed because it was a beautiful shot and led to a much needed 2 points.

[toby91_ca]

See that is a matter of perspective though, the ref felt he had control of the puck, considering he plays pucks off his skates regularly, Duchene was 10 feet offside and even he knew it

Not sure if you are serious or not, but there's no way a linesman would call onside because he was in control of the puck.  You need to have possession of the puck to be in control of it.  Based on that still shot though, he's offside, but at full speed, it would probably look pretty close and I guess they give the benefit of the doubt to the offensive player?

 

Regarding Duchene, whether he was 2 feet, 10 feet or 20 feet ahead of the puck over the line, if the Preds passed the puck back in their end, doesn't matter, he's onside.  That's the explanation they gave on that play.  Still a completely terrible call, but at least not mind boggling how they could miss someone that far offside.

[CrimsonFlame]

Not sure if you are serious or not, but there's no way a linesman would call onside because he was in control of the puck.  You need to have possession of the puck to be in control of it.  Based on that still shot though, he's offside, but at full speed, it would probably look pretty close and I guess they give the benefit of the doubt to the offensive player?

 

Regarding Duchene, whether he was 2 feet, 10 feet or 20 feet ahead of the puck over the line, if the Preds passed the puck back in their end, doesn't matter, he's onside.  That's the explanation they gave on that play.  Still a completely terrible call, but at least not mind boggling how they could miss someone that far offside.

 

I don't think a pred ever touched it.  It's chipped out from Colorado's zone by an av and then one of the preds tries to grab it but misses.  It then slides over to Duchene who is already offsides. 

[ogreslayer]

With every ugly loss, not canceling my Center Ice package might just count as my worst call of the year.

[Din758]

See that is a matter of perspective though, the ref felt he had control of the puck, considering he plays pucks off his skates regularly, Duchene was 10 feet offside and even he knew it

 

when the puck is traveling behind pav, i dont believe he has control. anyway the rule is, control or not, the puck must be completely over the line for it to count as on side.

[amato]

As much as I feel bad that they got screwed like that, there is still no guarantee they would have won, and I couldn't care less if they miss they miss the playoffs by a point, especially if that point they miss it by is our point. We as wings fans are supposed to hate Nashville, but that isn't my reasoning for not caring, it's more the fact that they beat us 4-1 last year, and Rinne seems to stand on his head when they play us, so I would rather face a team like Colorado, Phoenix, or Dallas more then Nashville in the Playoffs. 

 

yeah, i agree with that for sure. i just think it'd be funny if the prednecks missed by a point after that. it would remind me of that bad NFL call from this past season. it didn't effect the NFL teams but my friend in fantasy made it to playoffs because of it and almost won it all.. but that's besides the point. 

 

of the teams you listed, i'd most want to see colorado in they playoffs.. vs. the wings. rekindle the rivalry. plus, i like duchene.

[toby91_ca]

when the puck is traveling behind pav, i dont believe he has control. anyway the rule is, control or not, the puck must be completely over the line for it to count as on side.

Not really.  A player can cross the line before the puck as long as he has control of the puck.  This normally happens when a player spins backwards for a second, but is clearly in control of the puck with his stick.  This simply doesn't apply to the Datsyuk shot showed above, unless someone is assuming he is controlling the puck with his mind.

[CrimsonFlame]

Not really.  A player can cross the line before the puck as long as he has control of the puck.  This normally happens when a player spins backwards for a second, but is clearly in control of the puck with his stick.  This simply doesn't apply to the Datsyuk shot showed above, unless someone is assuming he is controlling the puck with his mind.

 

Hey we saw Quick do it last year.  Maybe he taught Dats a trick or two. 

[Euro_Twins]

when the puck is traveling behind pav, i dont believe he has control. anyway the rule is, control or not, the puck must be completely over the line for it to count as on side.

 

that's your mistake then, when pav is on the ice he always has control of the puck, even when the opposing team has it

yeah, i agree with that for sure. i just think it'd be funny if the prednecks missed by a point after that. it would remind me of that bad NFL call from this past season. it didn't effect the NFL teams but my friend in fantasy made it to playoffs because of it and almost won it all.. but that's besides the point. 

 

of the teams you listed, i'd most want to see colorado in they playoffs.. vs. the wings. rekindle the rivalry. plus, i like duchene.

 

It would be funny if colorodo beat out nashville for a playoff spot because of that goal though lol

[shoobiedoobin]

And remember folks, these refs are infallible. They're protected by the league and no one is to question them, lest they receive a hefty fine. 

 

We've got refs who flat out miss the most obvious calls. We've got refs who admit to hating a city and ref their games consistently and make terrible calls while doing it. We've got officials who constantly favor one team or another in big scenarios. We've got make-up calls, reputation calls and all kinds of bulls***. And we can't even review this crap. The credibility of hockey to me has taken a small dive every year. Last year watching LA get away with murder against PHO almost killed my interest permanently.

Edited by shoobiedoobin, 19 February 2013 - 02:12 PM.

[CrimsonFlame]

And remember folks, these refs are infallible. They're protected by the league and no one is to question them, lest they receive a hefty fine. 

 

We've got refs who flat out miss the most obvious calls. We've got refs who admit to hating a city and ref their games consistently and make terrible calls while doing it. We've got officials who constantly favor one team or another in big scenarios. We've got make-up calls, reputation calls and all kinds of bulls***. And we can't even review this crap. The credibility of hockey to me has taken a small dive every year. Last year watching LA get away with murder against PHO almost killed my interest permanently.

Best of all, any reviewed plays are done in a secret dark office in far away Toronto.  Because that doesn't scream suspicious at all.