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[b.shanafan14]

Babcock's strategy: spread your talent thin, make your best players play with your worst, switch even strength lines often, never change up powerplay lines no matter how bad they are, call out good players in a slump, baby bad players playing awful, and always end in a post-game presser talking about how good you thought you were and how you deserved better. Repeat. *sigh*

[RedWingsDad]

Oh well... we played a good game overall. Lost because we are missing Sammy, Franzen, Helm, Bert. No need for anyone to get their panties in a bunch.

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

Just like how Lidstrom left we better panic about our D. I hate to see this team without Dats now. It's gonna be scary. #truth

[kipwinger]

I'm going to be seriously pissed if I don't wake up tomorrow to a "Wings rumored to be in trade talks with team X about player Y" headline on the hockey sites.  This is killing me.  I know that there are injuries and that it makes a world of difference, but considering there's no timetable for Helm or Bert or (presumably) now Sammy, and every game we lose puts us more and more in a hole, we better do something to stop this skid. 

 

They could start by getting a defenseman who isn't a mediocre hack from St. Louis, or San Jose, or Colorado, or whatever other gutter we've been picking up "retreads" out of. 

 

The season doesn't have to be over, but if they don't get some quality personnel in the lineup, and we keep waiting for Babs' pipedreams (Flip the shooter, Abby the third liner, Ericsson the top pair d-man, Cleary the useful hockey player) to come true we'll be out of playoff contention permanently. 

 

It doesn't have to be a blockbuster, but there are moves than can help this team.  Make them!

[Wings4Life19]

Babcock: "A couple(unnamed) guys didnt come to play"

[GMRwings1983]

I'm going to be seriously pissed if I don't wake up tomorrow to a "Wings rumored to be in trade talks with team X about player Y" headline on the hockey sites.  This is killing me.  I know that there are injuries and that it makes a world of difference, but considering there's no timetable for Helm or Bert or (presumably) now Sammy, and every game we lose puts us more and more in a hole, we better do something to stop this skid. 

 

They could start by getting a defenseman who isn't a mediocre hack from St. Louis, or San Jose, or Colorado, or whatever other gutter we've been picking up "retreads" out of. 

 

The season doesn't have to be over, but if they don't get some quality personnel in the lineup, and we keep waiting for Babs' pipedreams (Flip the shooter, Abby the third liner, Ericsson the top pair d-man, Cleary the useful hockey player) to come true we'll be out of playoff contention permanently. 

 

It doesn't have to be a blockbuster, but there are moves than can help this team.  Make them!

 

We have no one to trade.  That's why moves like the "Huskins move" are about as good as Holland is willing or able to go for.  

[b.shanafan14]

Nothing gives me an aneurysm quicker than hearing "keep doing what we're doing" as the answer to "how do we change our fortunes in the win-loss column".

[GMRwings1983]

Nothing gives me an aneurysm quicker than hearing "keep doing what we're doing" as the answer to "how do we change our fortunes in the win-loss column".

 

Our deadline acquisitions will come when Helm, Franzen and Smith come back from injury!

 

[Yak19]

Wishlist for next game: Almquist in for Kindl and move Cleary out of the top6

[GMRwings1983]

Babcock: "A couple(unnamed) guys didnt come to play"

 

He's giving us LGW members a cue to name those names.  

[SaCkaveli20]

I've never been one to question Mike Babcock, I think he's a terrific coach.. But was is he thinking playing Cleary 20 minutes and Tatar less than 10?
I don't understand..I really don't. He watches the same game we do, does he not?

[LeftWinger]

I'm going to be seriously pissed if I don't wake up tomorrow to a "Wings rumored to be in trade talks with team X about player Y" headline on the hockey sites.  This is killing me.  I know that there are injuries and that it makes a world of difference, but considering there's no timetable for Helm or Bert or (presumably) now Sammy, and every game we lose puts us more and more in a hole, we better do something to stop this skid. 

 

They could start by getting a defenseman who isn't a mediocre hack from St. Louis, or San Jose, or Colorado, or whatever other gutter we've been picking up "retreads" out of. 

 

The season doesn't have to be over, but if they don't get some quality personnel in the lineup, and we keep waiting for Babs' pipedreams (Flip the shooter, Abby the third liner, Ericsson the top pair d-man, Cleary the useful hockey player) to come true we'll be out of playoff contention permanently. 

 

It doesn't have to be a blockbuster, but there are moves than can help this team.  Make them!

 

Nothing is going to happen....Holland will NEVER trade what he feels are his best players...Fil or Franzen.  He will never admit to the mistake he made keeping Franzine or acquiring Quincey.  There will be no trades, except maybe a mid-level prospect for an over the hill player...

 

Holland is in a pickle...he has to know how bad this team is, even without injuries...but does he really? Does he really think that when healthy that this is an actual Stanley Cup contender? a Playoff team?  I just think that Holland's string is coming unraveled and he is playing Howard Hughes in his office at the Joe...he just keeps saying, "Franzen,  he's the way of the future...he's the way of the future...he's the way of the future..."

[GoWings1905]

I know he frustrates the hell out of most people (myself included), but the team misses Franzen. Since Babs isn't willing to use Tatar in the top-six, it really puts all the pressure on Datsyuk and Zetterberg to carry the team offensively. Especially when Filppula isn't producing and Cleary and Abdelkader are two players getting placed in roles they absolutely shouldn't be in.

Franzen and Tatar or at least one of Bertuzzi/Samuelsson up there would help a lot right now. I don't prefer the latter two ideally, but they are better options than Cleary or Abdelkader if healthy. Filppula needs to get going too. He played with Z tonight and was still invisible mostly.

[Bar Down]

Nothing gives me an aneurysm quicker than hearing "keep doing what we're doing" as the answer to "how do we change our fortunes in the win-loss column".

 

What more could you ask for out of that game aside from a win?  The Wings dominated the Preds for the majority of the game.  60% on face-offs, out-hitting and out-shooting a team usually means a win.  A couple of bounces going the Wings' way and this game doesn't even go to OT.

 

I know the Wings are on a losing streak but that was a really entertaining game to watch.  

Edited by Bar Down, 19 February 2013 - 11:13 PM.

[GMRwings1983]

I've never been one to question Mike Babcock, I think he's a terrific coach.. But was is he thinking playing Cleary 20 minutes and Tatar less than 10?
I don't understand..I really don't. He watches the same game we do, does he not?

 

Dude, our prospects are overripe because they sit on the bench and learn from greats like Dan Cleary.  

[LeftWinger]

Next game line combos please:

 

Fil - Dats - Tatar

Tootoo - Zetterberg - Brunner

Miller - Andersson - Abby

Eaves - Emmerton - Cleary

 

 

PLEASE!!! Babcock, get you head out of your ass!!!!!!!!1111

[dat's sick]

Don't even feel bad about the loss. Just watching Datsyuk tonight was enough for me. 

 

Babcock has got to wake up sooner or later though. Had he started the 4-on-4 OT with Datsyuk+Z/Tatar we would have probably won the game. 

[GMRwings1983]

I'm shocked that Brunner is getting top line minutes, because he's not even 30 years old.  

 

I figured being close to 30 was a requirement to play on the Red Wings top two lines.

[rick zombo]

Nothing is going to happen....Holland will NEVER trade what he feels are his best players...Fil or Franzen.  He will never admit to the mistake he made keeping Franzine or acquiring Quincey.  There will be no trades, except maybe a mid-level prospect for an over the hill player...

 

Holland is in a pickle...he has to know how bad this team is, even without injuries...but does he really? Does he really think that when healthy that this is an actual Stanley Cup contender? a Playoff team?  I just think that Holland's string is coming unraveled and he is playing Howard Hughes in his office at the Joe...he just keeps saying, "Franzen,  he's the way of the future...he's the way of the future...he's the way of the future..."

 

Pretty sure Kenny got everyone’s titties twisted up when he said the “playoffs weren’t a guarantee” for this team before the season started. He was referring to a healthy line-up obviously. 

 

So, to answer your question: yes I think the GM of Detroit Red Wings knows what kind of team he has. 

Edited by rick zombo, 19 February 2013 - 11:20 PM.

[GoWings1905]

Don't even feel bad about the loss. Just watching Datsyuk tonight was enough for me. 
 
Babcock has got to wake up sooner or later though. Had he started the 4-on-4 OT with Datsyuk+Z/Tatar we would have probably won the game. 

Definitely agree. I figured Z would be with Brunner, but to use Cleary with Datsyuk isn't acceptable at all. Tatar, Filppula, Eaves. Anybody else but Cleary.