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#21 MTU_Huskies963

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:19 AM

Where were his linemates on that play? Oh that's right Babcock had him lined up with cleary and abby, what a joke. Datsyuk's only option was to do all the work himself.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:24 AM

Aside from the first win over St. Louis, the good game against Chicago, and the subsequent win over Dallas, every other win we have was largely the result of huge individual efforts.  Thank god we've got a couple of guys who can win a game all by themselves because if not, we'd be in real bad shape right about now. 


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:46 AM

When he goes to Russia after his current contract is up, we're going to be hurting like you wouldn't believe.  Trust that.  One of the best players to ever wear the uniform.  I'm talking up there with Howe, Lindsay, Delvecchio, Yzerman.....the list goes on.

 

This guy is just out of world with the puck, he almost made the whole Predatordefense look like beer league players and on top of that scored against the leagues best goalie so far this season.

 

It will be a sad day, seeing him leaving back home so enjoy the last 2 years of his magic, it will end in the not so distant future, sadly. I also think his English has become better.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

When they show the highlight package for Datsyuk's career, I have to think that goal will be included in there...right after his patented shootout move on Turco, kicking the puck the Z for the empty netter, and any number of other blind passes, take aways or other exceptional plays you could choose from.  

 

I really think that his offense from game-to-game this year has been better at age 34 than it ever has been.  I'm not saying he'll be on a record goals/assist pace (the lockout ruined the significance of those numbers anyway), but he just seems involved in setting up and finishing more consistently than I can ever remember.  The brilliant thing about him is that he doesn't do it with superhuman speed or a 100 mph slapshot.  In Datsyuk and Larionov, the Wings have had two of the most cerebral tacticians the game has ever seen, which is why this generation of fans is truly spoiled, even if we don't win a Cup every 5 years.

 

Unless he re-signs, which I don't expect him to do in advance, 2014 really could be his last year in the NHL.  I sure hope it's not, but I certainly wouldn't fault him for whatever he wants to do.  Just make sure you appreciate what you're seeing, because we'll be trying to explain to our kids in 10 or 20 years how this guy who never had a 100-pt season or scored more than 32 goals in a year was maybe the most special player we ever watched.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

If he keeps this up he's got to be a contender for the Lady Byng again.  He truly is a special player and a special person.  I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Lionel Messi is the Playstation footballer, Datsyuk is the Playstation hockey player

 

I have this horrible dream where he's denied entry into the HOF because he ends up with less than 1000 career points which would be a scandal.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

I don't think he'll get into the HOF.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

I don't think he'll get into the HOF.

 

Go troll somewhere else please.

 

On a side note, after pavels goal, all he got was a spot on the sidecolumn of NHL's page, and nothing on the main part about the wings game. Now today because the pens and flyers are playing, there is a big picture of he who shall not be named, and they are claiming he is back to being the best in the league. Please show me something he has done better then Datsyuk or Z this year, rant over. (please don't turn this into a discussion about him, I just wanted to point out no matter what Pasha does, he still isn't ever going to be the nhl's "golden child")

 

EDIT: On the front page under Tuesday's best, Weber's OT winner is the first video, and datsyuk's is 2nd last... the NHL writers should be fired


Edited by Euro_Twins, 20 February 2013 - 01:20 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

 
I was actually thinking about starting a thread about this, but I guess I'll just do it here.  I wanted to know who people thought was better, all things considered: Datsyuk or Zetterberg? 
 
While I'll readily admit that Datsyuk is the more skilled player, I still think Zetterberg is the better player overall.  He draws the tougher defensive matchups, he hangs on to the puck better when pressured, brings more intensity night in and night out, is a noticeably better penalty killer, and consistently puts up similar or better offensive numbers.  Plus, he'll actually shoot the puck without being forced to at gunpoint. 
 
Anyone else care to chime in?

Im not trying to be confrontational here but...you cannot be serious?!! "Hangs onto the puck better"...complete nonsense, seriously. I have played and followed this game for 19 years and i have never seen anyone crafty or as strong on the puck, especially considering his size, as Datsyuk. I personally think the comparison between the two is not even close. Im not going to look it up, but if im not mistaken, a Hockey News poll of players was taken recently and Crosby and Datsyuk were 1-2 in being strongest on the puck.

Better defensively...Datsyuk literally owns the Selke trophy (best defensive forward IN THE NHL) and takes the puck away from the opposition as much or more than anyone IN THE LEAGUE, let alone on the Wings. Datsyuk is arguably the best overall player in the league. Zetterberg isnt even in the conversation. Z has been impressing me this year and there is a reason he's the captain...but Datsyuk is clearly the better player.

"What a pleasure we have, night in night out, to watch that man", Ken Daniels just said (im watching the replay of last night, and the just played a montage of Datsyuk's highlights from only the first two periods).

Edited by achildr1, 20 February 2013 - 01:25 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

I don't think he'll get into the HOF.

Go troll somewhere else please.

On a side note, after pavels goal, all he got was a spot on the sidecolumn of NHL's page, and nothing on the main part about the wings game. Now today because the pens and flyers are playing, there is a big picture of he who shall not be named, and they are claiming he is back to being the best in the league. Please show me something he has done better then Datsyuk or Z this year, rant over. (please don't turn this into a discussion about him, I just wanted to point out no matter what Pasha does, he still isn't ever going to be the nhl's "golden child")

Of course I think he should get into the HOF, I'm the biggest Wings fan out there. I just don't think his numbers will impress the voters enough, he'll be viewed as a Pavel Bure highlight reel machine, but not quite HOF material.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

Im not trying to be confrontational here but...you cannot be serious?!! "Hangs onto the puck better"...complete nonsense, seriously. I have played and followed this game for 19 years and i have never seen anyone crafty or as strong on the puck, especially considering his size, as Datsyuk. I personally think the comparison between the two is not even close. Im not going to look it up, but if im not mistaken, a Hockey News poll of players was taken recently and Crosby and Datsyuk were 1-2 in being strongest on the puck.

Better defensively...Datsyuk literally owns the Selke trophy (best defensive forward IN THE NHL) and takes the puck away from the opposition as much or more than anyone IN THE LEAGUE, let alone on the Wings. Datsyuk is arguably the best overall player in the league. Zetterberg isnt even in the conversation. Z has been impressing me this year and there is a reason he's the captain...but Datsyuk is clearly the better player.

"What a pleasure we have, night in night out, to watch that man", Ken Daniels just said (im watching the replay of last night, and the just played a montage of Datsyuk's highlights from only the first two periods).

 

Here is something to back up your argument 

 

 

  • 2010-2011 NHL Players Poll: Hardest to Take the Puck Off of, Cleanest Player.[13]
  • 2011-2012 NHL Players Poll: Smartest Player, Most Difficult to Play Against, Hardest to Take the Puck From, Most Difficult to Stop, Cleanest Player, Toughest Forward to Play Against.[13]


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

Of course I think he should get into the HOF, I'm the biggest Wings fan out there. I just don't think his numbers will impress the voters enough, he'll be viewed as a Pavel Bure highlight reel machine, but not quite HOF material.

I certainly think your wrong. Two Cups, several Selke trophys, and possibly the most consistently exciting player of this generation. The Hall makes a big case for a pro-rated career like Lindros and I think Datsyuk's case is an easier one to make. Also, players points would be judged quite differently in 10 years because scoring has went down dramatically over the last 20 years. The guys that have been inducted in recent years played in the late 80's and early 90's when guys were scoring at much higher rates as today.

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Here is something to back up your argument 
 
 

  • 2010-2011 NHL Players Poll: Hardest to Take the Puck Off of, Cleanest Player.[13]
  • 2011-2012 NHL Players Poll: Smartest Player, Most Difficult to Play Against, Hardest to Take the Puck From, Most Difficult to Stop, Cleanest Player, Toughest Forward to Play Against.[13]
Thank you. If that doesnt end the arguement, im not sure what will.

Btw...Datsyuk took 47% of the vote in Hardest to take the Puck From

Edited by achildr1, 20 February 2013 - 01:37 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

I certainly think your wrong. Two Cups, several Selke trophys, and possibly the most consistently exciting player of this generation. The Hall makes a big case for a pro-rated career like Lindros and I think Datsyuk's case is an easier one to make. Also, players points would be judged quite differently in 10 years because scoring has went down dramatically over the last 20 years. The guys that have been inducted in recent years played in the late 80's and early 90's when guys were scoring at much higher rates as today.

Thank you. If that doesnt end the arguement, im not sure what will.

Btw...Datsyuk took 47% of the vote in Hardest to take the Puck From

 

video proof won't even sway the minds of some people here. Nor the fact that he has 3 selke's and 4 lady byng's and Zetterbergs only awards were conn smythe in 2008 and red wings team rookie of the year



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:51 PM

 
video proof won't even sway the minds of some people here. Nor the fact. That he has 3 selke's and 4 lady byng's and Zetterbergs only awards were conn smythe in 2008 and red wings team rookie of the year


I dont think I give Z enough credit, and I think you have to watch a little closer to see how good he is. That said, I know hockey. Roy is the best goaltender ive ever seen. Lidstrom was literally a giant amont mere mortals and easily the smartest defenseman ive ever seen...but Datsyuk (as I literally just seen him deke out the whole Preds team on the replay im watching)has/is the following...

1. Easily the best stickhandeler I have ever seen. And whoever is #2 isnt even close.
2. The Strongest person on the puck I have seen with Forsberg as #2
3. The smartest/most cerebrel/most creative (in game theory) forward I have ever watched. The ghy does things so differently and thinks about the game on such a different level that other players just dont have a chance.
4. Best defensive forward ive ever seen. Datsyuk is much like Lidstrom in the fact that they both can be the best defensive players at thier positions without having to play a largely physical game. Datsyuk has the smartest defensive "stick" in the game, much as Lidstrom did from defense.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:56 PM

I dont think I give Z enough credit, and I think you have to watch a little closer to see how good he is. That said, I know hockey. Roy is the best goaltender ive ever seen. Lidstrom was literally a giant amont mere mortals and easily the smartest defenseman ive ever seen...but Datsyuk (as I literally just seen him deke out the whole Preds team on the replay im watching)has/is the following...

1. Easily the best stickhandeler I have ever seen. And whoever is #2 isnt even close.
2. The Strongest person on the puck I have seen with Forsberg as #2
3. The smartest/most cerebrel/most creative (in game theory) forward I have ever watched. The ghy does things so differently and thinks about the game on such a different level that other players just dont have a chance.
4. Best defensive forward ive ever seen. Datsyuk is much like Lidstrom in the fact that they both can be the best defensive players at thier positions without having to play a largely physical game. Datsyuk has the smartest defensive "stick" in the game, much as Lidstrom did from defense.

 

Don't get me wrong, I was defending your point. Zetterberg is a beast (especially this year) he is great with the puck, and does an awesome job holding on to it, and it is hard to get it from him when he has it, he is very smart defensively and offensively, and is one of the best players in the game, but that doesn't change that Datsyuk is on a completely different level



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:17 PM

 
Don't get me wrong, I was defending your point. Zetterberg is a beast (especially this year) he is great with the puck, and does an awesome job holding on to it, and it is hard to get it from him when he has it, he is very smart defensively and offensively, and is one of the best players in the game, but that doesn't change that Datsyuk is on a completely different level

Lol...I was just expanding on my/your previous thoughts. By "you have to watch closer", i didnt mean you. I meant anyone, myself included. No gettin' it wrong here...I just didnt want people to think im a complete Zetterberg hater. Datsyuk is my favorite athlete that ive ever watched though. The Barry Sanders of the NHL.

Edited by achildr1, 20 February 2013 - 02:19 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

Pekke Rinne has to be the most overrated goalie ever

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

Pekke Rinne has to be the most overrated goalie ever

 

Not against the wings, he always seems to have Zetterbergs number, and seems to play very hard against us all the time. I would agree he gets a lot of praise, but most of it is well earned, he works hard and makes a lot of great saves.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

 
Not against the wings, he always seems to have Zetterbergs number, and seems to play very hard against us all the time. I would agree he gets a lot of praise, but most of it is well earned, he works hard and makes a lot of great saves.


I watched him in the playoffs a couple years ago and the kid was incredible. Certainly not the most over rated goalie. Loungo doesnt play for the Predators.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

 
Go troll somewhere else please.
 
On a side note, after pavels goal, all he got was a spot on the sidecolumn of NHL's page, and nothing on the main part about the wings game. Now today because the pens and flyers are playing, there is a big picture of he who shall not be named, and they are claiming he is back to being the best in the league. Please show me something he has done better then Datsyuk or Z this year, rant over. (please don't turn this into a discussion about him, I just wanted to point out no matter what Pasha does, he still isn't ever going to be the nhl's "golden child")
 
EDIT: On the front page under Tuesday's best, Weber's OT winner is the first video, and datsyuk's is 2nd last... the NHL writers should be fired

What NHL.com are you watching? Soon after the game Pav's goal was the #1 featured video, and now they have a collection of Datsyukian dekes on the front page.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

Datsyuk has probably been dangling our crappy defense in practice all season.  

 

His stick handling is only bound to get even better going up against White, Quincey and Kronwall every day.   


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