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[DSM]

i totally saw this coming theres just not space for guys like him with tatar,andersson and nyquist coming up ... i expect guys like miller and samuelsson not to be back next season ( well maybe not samuelsson cuz holland loves him )

 

what bugs me though is the dump the  player on waivers for nothing again routine, anze kopitar is his best friend you telling me we couldnt of gotten a 7th round pick and let our scout andersson try his magic again with an extra pick and hope for the best ???

 

no doubt  he will get picked up and i think with the speed he has he can be an nhl player for years and if not now  i see him with the kings when hes a ufa

 

 

Once again, if you were an NHL GM, what would you pay for an injury prone 3rd/4th line winger that doesn't play physical or score much? Considering, that just about every team has better and more established 3rd/4th line players on their team and even on their AHL team.

 

I feel like a broken record on these forums sometimes.

[Jedi]

Sounds like he knows he's done, one way or another, with Detroit.
 
http://www.mlive.com..._would_hav.html (emphasis mine)

Jan Mursak realized before the season that he was on borrowed time in the Detroit Red Wings organization.
 
He saw the club had a surplus of forwards on its NHL roster and several more in Grand Rapids pushing for the opportunity.
 
So, Mursak wasn't surprised to be placed on waivers Friday, saying he just wasn't the right fit on this team.
 
“We have a lot of good players here; even the guys who came down from Grand Rapids are playing really, really good,'' Mursak said. “I wish I would have gotten more opportunity, but I haven’t been fitting in very well when I had the chance to play. So it’s time to move on.”

[DSM]

The exact same thing happened when Holland had to waive Quincey to keep Meech.  People wept tears of blood and whipped themselves in the street.  For the next two seasons we all heard how Holland made a huge mistake and he had to get Q back.  When Kenny brings back the Q we all see how much worse he is than Ericsson and we're glad big-E stuck with the team.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they called Ferraro up or maybe Riley.  I have a feeling Sheahan will have to wait on account of his bad choices off the ice.  The only reason I think they'd aim for one of those guys over Nyquist is how crappy the PK has been.

 

Ferraro would give the team the speed and grit on the PK that we're missing with Helm gone.  Doesn't hurt that Ferraro is scoring shorties in the AHL and has almost the same top speed as Helm but with a decent set of hands. 

 

Fixed.

[Jesusberg]

My memory might be fuzzy, but I don't think Quincey had anything to do with Ericsson. I think Quincey was waived to keep Chelios and Meech. Quincey was waived at the beginning of the 2008-2009 season, Big E started in Grand Rapids that year if I'm not mistaken.

 

This. They basically kept Meech over Quincey. They were battling for a spot during the pre-season and Meech outplayed him.

[DSM]

My memory might be fuzzy, but I don't think Quincey had anything to do with Ericsson. I think Quincey was waived to keep Chelios and Meech. Quincey was waived at the beginning of the 2008-2009 season, Big E started in Grand Rapids that year if I'm not mistaken.

 

They wanted Chelios to stay at #8, and Meech and Quincey battled in training camp for the #7 spot. That summer, they weren't sure where Quincey would end up fitting into the lineup. They even had him spend time with Aaron Downey over the summer, to teach him how to fight. Meech ended up getting the spot in camp. Holland offered Quincey to other teams, but no one wanted to give anything up for a dman that was out of minor league options and hadn't proven that he was good enough to be an NHL regular. The other teams opted to take their chances with waivers and lose nothing. Plus, with Ericsson quickly climbing the depth chart, Quincey was expendable.

[nyqvististhefuture]

Once again, if you were an NHL GM, what would you pay for an injury prone 3rd/4th line winger that doesn't play physical or score much? Considering, that just about every team has better and more established 3rd/4th line players on their team and even on their AHL team.

 

I feel like a broken record on these forums sometimes.

 

anze kopitar is his best friend im sure if kenny called him and said im getting rid of him and i called you first cause i know he and anze are close would you be interested ?

 

im sure the gm would then ask anze about mursak and he'd be all up for it and suggest the deal and we'd be able to get a 7th round pick

Edited by nyqvististhefuture, 22 February 2013 - 02:53 PM.

[DSM]

anze kopitar is his best friend im sure if kenny called him and said im getting rid of him and i called you first cause i know he and anze are close would you be interested ?

 

im sure the gm would then ask anze about mursak and he'd be all up for it and suggest the deal and we'd be able to get a 7th round pick

 

They aren't best friends. There's an article somewhere out there from when the Wings played the Kings last March highlighting the fact that it was the first NHL game where 2 Slovenians were playing one another. They interview both players and they basically said that they pretty much just "know each other".

 

Also, I doubt Dean Lombardi would open a roster spot on his team to bring in a small injury prone winger just to make Anze Kopitar happy.

[Crymson]

Ritola 2.0

 

Yeah, and look where Ritola is now: a secondary scorer on a team in the SEL.

anze kopitar is his best friend im sure if kenny called him and said im getting rid of him and i called you first cause i know he and anze are close would you be interested ?

 

im sure the gm would then ask anze about mursak and he'd be all up for it and suggest the deal and we'd be able to get a 7th round pick

 

Not accurate.

[arag]

Mursak has 0 awareness on ice. He gets hit hard every shift he plays. Let him go before he gets another injury. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

[Drake_Marcus]

Fixed.

 

I forgot it was Meech. Maybe Winnipeg would want Quincy.  hmmmm....

[ogreslayer]

I think this is as much as positive message to Tatar & Andersson as it is a negative one to Mursak.  

[Donohue75]

Gonna throw this out there....Holland probably tried to trade him for a pick, most teams probably looked at the wings roster and said, well you are going to waive him anyways I will just wait until then.  Someone was going to  need to go on waivers at some point.  Holland wasn't dealing with strength here... Why give up a pick when chances are he, or someone else was going to be waived.  As with a 7th round pick, its a crap shoot and same with Mursak.

 

Teams that will take Mursak

1-Tampa

2-Ottawa

3-Calgary

4-No one and he goes to GR

[Marty Barry]

Not a catalyst, but a first step in righting the ship.  Please let this be just the beginning.  Or, just what needed to be done and no need reading into the future.

Gonna throw this out there....Holland probably tried to trade him for a pick, most teams probably looked at the wings roster and said, well you are going to waive him anyways I will just wait until then.  Someone was going to  need to go on waivers at some point.  Holland wasn't dealing with strength here... Why give up a pick when chances are he, or someone else was going to be waived.  As with a 7th round pick, its a crap shoot and same with Mursak.

 

Teams that will take Mursak

1-Tampa

2-Ottawa

3-Calgary

4-No one and he goes to GR

Don't leave out CBJ.

[Z Winged Dangler]

 
Yes we can. Like others have said, as long as Detroit doesn't mind turning Grand Rapids into an ECHL team, Ferraro and Sheahan are both available options and are both better than Mursak has been.
 
Where's Aussie_Wing? I feel for that guy.

I just wished we got something for him. Watch he won't clear waivers and in 3 yrars we'll gibe up a 1st to get him back

 
Yes we can. Like others have said, as long as Detroit doesn't mind turning Grand Rapids into an ECHL team, Ferraro and Sheahan are both available options and are both better than Mursak has been.
 
Where's Aussie_Wing? I feel for that guy.

I just wished we got something for him. Watch he won't clear waivers and in 3 yrars we'll gibe up a 1st to get him back

[VM1138]

People are overreacting. It sucks to lose a player for nothing, but sometimes you just can't broker a deal.

[amato]

I just wished we got something for him. Watch he won't clear waivers and in 3 yrars we'll gibe up a 1st to get him back


I just wished we got something for him. Watch he won't clear waivers and in 3 yrars we'll gibe up a 1st to get him back

 

doubt it. 

 

doubt it. 

 

 

....no really though, our forward roster will be so solid in 3 years, we wouldn't need to get him back. we got quincey back because we were in desperate need of D (and gave up a 1st in a weaker draft class). yes, it'd be nice to still have him and I would love for murs to clear waivers and remain with us for sure, but he's not necessarily needed.  

Edited by amato, 22 February 2013 - 06:27 PM.

[Echolalia]

So who is returning to the lineup to warrant Holland moving a player?

[Motown4013]

Can we be hopeful and think that we made room for Bobby Ryan? Ryan O' Reilly? A girl can dream

[amato]

Can we be hopeful and think that we made room for Bobby Ryan? Ryan O' Reilly? A girl can dream

Only if you're looking to be let down again

[Echolalia]

Can we be hopeful and think that we made room for Bobby Ryan? Ryan O' Reilly? A girl can dream

 

Why else would Holland be placing someone on waivers if not to make room for someone else?? 

 

I'm already getting depressed for getting my hopes up.  I'm such a moron an oxymoron.