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#61 rrasco

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

Why else would Holland be placing someone on waivers if not to make room for someone else?? 

 

I'm already getting depressed for getting my hopes up.  I'm such a moron an oxymoron.

 

That's what I've been trying to figure out.  We have 3 options:

 

1. Trade coming

2. Call-up from GR

3. Helm is coming back


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:47 PM

That's what I've been trying to figure out.  We have 3 options:

 

1. Trade coming

2. Call-up from GR

3. Helm is coming back

 

Is Helm the only Wing on IR?



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:55 PM

That's what I've been trying to figure out.  We have 3 options:

 

1. Trade coming

2. Call-up from GR

3. Helm is coming back

4. Give a guy with no future here a chance to catch on with another team.



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Maybe wings are hoping he doesn't pass a physical if claimed and he can finish the year in GRap
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

Hi,

i know both Kopitar and Mursak. In junior leagues they played for rival teams. Both of them went abroad very soon, Kopi to Sweden and Jan to Czech republic. They played together for U20 Division I group A in Bled, Slovenia in year 2006 ... they were in the same line. They also played on several occasion with national team but this was the most important one. They are friends when they play hockey together, but not buddies in free time. Both of them are in home country for two-three moths. They use this time for their family and friends. For past two years Anze has a charity golf tournament, and one of the special guests is also Jan Mursak (photos are here: http://www.siol.net/...pitar_golf.aspx)

 

About this waiver situation. My opinion is that Jan is NHL material. He was unlucky last year with his ankle injury. I think thay Red Wings fans hadn't have enough oportunity to see him play. Last year when he played with Holmström, he had 3-4 minutes per game. But you know, it's hard to play with Holm and it's hard to deliver something. In lockout he choose to stay in EBEL league. He played against Vanek, Clarkson, Enström, Myers, Grabner... and he was the best by far. Again in Detroit ... first match and unlucky injury.

Other prospects and players. Tatar is good, definetly NHL material, also in great from lately. I don't like Andersson, i know that is only a few games, but he need to improve his perfomance to be regular. Nyquist, he was lucky last year that he got spot in top line. But with that kind of teammats he should perform better. Abdelkader, Emmerton, Eaves, Miller ... i don't see any future for them if they don't improve their game. Specialy Abe, one point in 17 games, has -6.

I think that Holland and Babcock lost their vision lately. We lost our defence, we have Zetty, Pavs, (new Brunner) and bunch of old injured veterans who can perform if they are healty. I think that we don't have chemistry as we used to have. We had great third line Maltby, mccarthy and draper. Now we have lines that can't play with CBJ ... or Islanders. We need to start to build new team, we need good defensive players, then we can focus on ofence.

 

I hope that Jan gets a chance. I'm certain that he'll be a good pick. If not, he can try next year. But with his quality he can be in every league in Europe. I think he would be interested for DEL, Swiss, Czech or Sweden. But n#1 choice still NHL :)


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

Good luck Mursak I am pretty sure, a team like the Islanders is going to take a chance on him

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:27 PM


 

About this waiver situation. My opinion is that Jan is NHL material. He was unlucky last year with his ankle injury. I think thay Red Wings fans hadn't have enough oportunity to see him play. Last year 

 

 

it's not that we don't like the guy, a lot of fans do (myself included) and it's evident by a lot of people thinking this is a bad move/wishing him luck if he were to move on. there just isn't room for him right now.. he's good but he's being outperformed by similar style prospects (brunner, nyquist, tatar..) in the time he's actually played. It's not that he's been too bad, other people have just been better with us. 


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:37 PM

He's an RFA at the end of the season & as of right now barring buyouts, the Wings have 3 forward spots to fill next season using at minimum a combination of the following who are already in the organization:

 

UFAs: Filppula, Cleary, Brunner, Miller

RFAs: Andersson, Mursak

Under contract: Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Ferraro

 

Given this list, what are the odds that Mursak figures into the Wings plans next season?  You have to figure Flip & Brunner are the top priorities.  Tatar has shown enough to grab a full-time job on the 3rd line at least.  And if the Wings use their 2 buyouts on forwards, you have Nyquist, Andersson, Sheahan, & Ferraro ready to step in based on their performance in GR, with the last 3 giving you the flexibility of playing wing or center which Mursak can't.  At the very least, you can maybe give Mursak an edge over re-signing Cleary, at least most on the board might think so.  

 

This is why I said earlier that this move is as much a positive message to the likes of Tatar & Andersson, and by extension to Nyquist, Sheahan, & Ferraro too, than it is a message to Mursak that his time in the Wings organization is pretty much at an end.  They've seen enough of Mursak to know they aren't going to resign him so why not use that ice time to get a head start on letting their young prospects try out for next year's roster now?



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

My guess, just opening a spot for Franzen to come off of IR in the next couple of days. Besides, Mursak has done nothing with us. Wasn't even that great at GR.



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:06 PM

Nothing major, just loafing around. ;)

Franzen's "ruling himself out"??

 

He must have plans for the weekend. :lol:


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:22 PM

Is Helm the only Wing on IR?

 

At this point, I believe he is the only forward close to coming back.  Sammy is out for a few weeks with his finger.  Mule is out until at least Wednesday.  Bert's back sounded like it was bad and there has been nothing new to say about him lately.  It was just a guess based on the information available to me.

 

4. Give a guy with no future here a chance to catch on with another team.

 

With the gluten of injured forwards, why rush to get rid of a roster spot until someone is coming back?  They throw in Eaves, what if someone can't go?  Who's in the press box?
 


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:31 AM

:( good luck jan

best of luck in your future endevours



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

About 20 minutes Jan will be in the A.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

About 20 minutes Jan will be in the A.

I really thought someone would pick this guy up.  I like Mursak he's fast and has a lot of energy and what ever happens best of luck Jan.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive
 

Wings' Jan Mursak cleared waivers and was assigned to Grand Rapids.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:13 PM



Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive
 
Wings' Jan Mursak cleared waivers and was assigned to Grand Rapids.


Dang it!!!!

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

Dang it!!!!

 

Why?  Doesn't hurt to have an extra body in GR.  This literally doesn't affect us in any way shape of form.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:22 PM

So much for someone picking him up. lol



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

Shows you how overvalued our jobbers are around here.  

 

Several posters couldn't possibly fathom how he would clear waivers.    :sleepy:  


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

So much for someone picking him up. lol

 

He's barely played any hockey the past 2 years with his injuries. The new team would have been forced to keep him on their active roster. Hopefully he'll get lots of playing time in Grand rapids, get some confidence and get another shot.



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