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#661 Dominator2005

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:10 AM

WTF is all this 2.0 bull? Can't a player be a player? Brunner is Brunner...period. He has 10 goals in 19 games, which would equate to apprx. 42 goals over an entire season. He is/was a great find and we have Stacy Roest to thank for him, not Andersson, not Holland.  He should be re-signed, he should get about $2M and he should be our best scorer since Hossa. He has proven he can play in the NHL and deserves to stay. No way Holland lets this guy walk, he didn't cost him an asset or a draft pick. He is found money basically.  But in no way is he anyone 2.0...he is Damien Brunner and he has arrived in the NHL...Thank you Stacy.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:18 AM

 
1)  People compare his playing style to Brett Hull.  How would you describe him to someone who's never seen him play?  A bit like Brett Hull.
 
2)  When Roest sent Holland the email about Brunner, Brunner was already on the Wings radar, and they had already seen him play several times.
 
3)  The 2013 Detroit Bi-Polars - always finding a way to do what you least expect! :lol:



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:28 AM

Keep Bert imo. Buyout Sammy and Quincey, walk Cleary and Miller.

I think Miller needs to stay

He is inexpensive two way forward, provides 10-20 goals a season, good on the PK and knows dump n chase hockey.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:01 AM

Resign Brunnerat 2 million per season? WTF????? He will get at least 3 million per, maybe 4.

To date Brunner has been great, but now his challenge begins. he ahs made a splash, word is out. The league will now game plane for him and adjust to him. Can he continue to have success? Stay tuned.....



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:20 AM

Kenny please lock up Brunner for 3-5 years, thanks!


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:17 AM

I love reading the butthurt on Vancouver's forum. 

 

The best part was so many fans accusing Bettman of having a Crosby-esque love affair with the Wings. 

Funny considering 2 of their 3 goals were a direct result of blatant interference. That little pick play behind the net is something they've done and gotten away with for about 4 years now. This league is full of stuff like this-allowing certain teams or players to bend the rules while no one else can. Pronger could cross check anyone he wanted, Pittsburgh can clutch and hold with no calls, SJ dives like they're going for gold, The Sedins can run pick plays and no one calls it because it's just their thing. 


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

1)  People compare his playing style to Brett Hull.  How would you describe him to someone who's never seen him play?  A bit like Brett Hull.

 

2)  When Roest sent Holland the email about Brunner, Brunner was already on the Wings radar, and they had already seen him play several times.

 

3)  The 2013 Detroit Bi-Polars - always finding a way to do what you least expect! :lol:

 

Brunner - Brett Hull 4.0

Tatar - Wayne Gretzky 2.75

Frk - Yzerman 3.14

 

...gimme a break.  Describe them as shooters, snipers, etc...do not compare them to other players. 


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

Brunner - Brett Hull 4.0

Tatar - Wayne Gretzky 2.75

Frk - Yzerman 3.14

 

...gimme a break.  Describe them as shooters, snipers, etc...do not compare them to other players. 

 

Not every sniper plays the game, not every 2-way plays the same, you see where this is going? This is why people use comparisons. If someone wanted to know how he played, you would compare playing styles to a similar player, and they would have an idea of how that player would play. You can't just say, "oh he's a sniper." Okay, well there's a bunch of those, so exactly what sniper does he play like? Does he cut space and rush the net? Does he push the perimeter? Does he work down low and wait for the 1T?


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

WTF is all this 2.0 bull? Can't a player be a player? Brunner is Brunner...period. He has 10 goals in 19 games, which would equate to apprx. 42 goals over an entire season. He is/was a great find and we have Stacy Roest to thank for him, not Andersson, not Holland.  He should be re-signed, he should get about $2M and he should be our best scorer since Hossa. He has proven he can play in the NHL and deserves to stay. No way Holland lets this guy walk, he didn't cost him an asset or a draft pick. He is found money basically.  But in no way is he anyone 2.0...he is Damien Brunner and he has arrived in the NHL...Thank you Stacy.

 

2 Million? Lmao...to be on the safe side he's a 30-35 goal scorer with the potential to get 40 plus.  Zajac just signed for 5.75 per and he's never scored more than 25 goals in a season and thats just one example.  Where did you get this figue? He will and should get 3.5-4 million.  I would pay him that this very second.  You're never going to give Holland credit for anythign so its no suprise he wont get any for Brunner either whether he deserves it or not.  2 million....lol.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

well word on Damien Brunner is out. I live in Vancouver, and the entire sportscentre crew was raving about the guy. Major props kid



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

well word on Damien Brunner is out. I live in Vancouver, and the entire sportscentre crew was raving about the guy. Major props kid

 

I don't get why people say these things. Brunner was targetted by numerous teams, he just choose Detroit. Off the top of my head, I remember Philly, Pittsburgh, and Detroit all going after him. Luckily, he choose us. No one knew how well he was going to translate into the N/A game but he was touted. Kenny needs to work on signing him to an extension asap though. I have mixed emotions but I think he'll end up staying with Detroit. This season could possibly turn him aside with the amount of adversity we face. He could be the personality that wants to be with a winning team and doesn't like much adversity in their life. He could possibly think he's worth more than he is, which could be a very realistic thing if he does end up being our leading scorer (not declaring him a greedy ******* right now, just saying it's one avenue of approach). The things going for us: he said Detroit has made his transition really comfortable and if it wasn't for Zetty playing with him over in the SEL, he would really feel uncomfortable. He's going to play with us this whole season, and have some memories attached to it, not exactly something that's easy to walk away from right away. We have the winter classic next year, it's a bargaining chip as many players want to experience something like that within their career. Realistically, I would say he's going to cost around 3.5-4m/season because we don't know his trajectory or potential. He can't demand high money because it was his first season, but he certainly could have bonuses attached to the contract. I think the safe bet would say, 2-3 year extension 3.8/season :P


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:06 PM

well word on Damien Brunner is out. I live in Vancouver, and the entire sportscentre crew was raving about the guy. Major props kid

 

I wish he could have been our little secret until we got him locked into a deal!  :greedy: :lol:


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:06 PM

 
2 Million? Lmao...to be on the safe side he's a 30-35 goal scorer with the potential to get 40 plus.  Zajac just signed for 5.75 per and he's never scored more than 25 goals in a season and thats just one example.  Where did you get this figue? He will and should get 3.5-4 million.  I would pay him that this very second.  You're never going to give Holland credit for anythign so its no suprise he wont get any for Brunner either whether he deserves it or not.  2 million....lol.


Zajac plays two way hockey and is better defensively... Brunner has to learn that aspect of the game; question is can be still be as effective offensively whole being responsible defensively?

Brunner is good and folks make a valid point, more focus and pressure will be applied to him... Coaches will be telling players to stick to him like a spandex jock strap, other teams will be forechecking and applying pressure making not giving him time and see if they can rush him which may lead to turn overs and scoring opportunities.

Now if he is playing with Flip, Z, or Pavel all on one line, some of the heat is taken off of him...

Anyways, good game by the entire team... Congrats to Tatar also
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

it's way too early to tell if Brunner is worth big money. He's only played 19 games. We don't even know if he has the gas to play a full 82 game season plus playoffs. (the Swiss play only around 50, less physical games)

 

It's Kenny's best interested to get him signed now, before he proves that he can score at this pace for 80 games for more than a season or two.

 

If he continues to prove himself, YIKES, is he in for a big payday.



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

It's not up to Ken Holland to get him signed right now, I'm sure he would, but that's not how it works.

 

No way in hell an agent would let his first year guy sign a cheap deal 19 games into a season where his client is tied for 4th in league goal scoring. I'm not sure what I want in a deal for Brunner this off season, and cheaper 2 year deal which lets us be more aggressive free agent wise, but maybe have to give him a bigger raise or lose him after those two years or a long term higher money deal which might be more money in the beginning, but if he can prove to be a 40 goal scorer year in year out would be steal.



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

2M per what, half of season???

 

Don't you know potential stars in detroit will take a huge paycut, crosby ovechkin and malkin all tried to get the wings to sign them for 3 mil each... kenny said no... *sigh* people undervalue people like brunner on our team while we pay guys like quincey 3.75 per. Brunner will get 4.5 per



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

Don't you know potential stars in detroit will take a huge paycut, crosby ovechkin and malkin all tried to get the wings to sign them for 3 mil each... kenny said no... *sigh* people undervalue people like brunner on our team while we pay guys like quincey 3.75 per. Brunner will get 4.5 per

 

 

I think that $4M would make sense at this point...


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

I don't get why people say these things. Brunner was targetted by numerous teams, he just choose Detroit. Off the top of my head, I remember Philly, Pittsburgh, and Detroit all going after him. Luckily, he choose us. No one knew how well he was going to translate into the N/A game but he was touted. Kenny needs to work on signing him to an extension asap though. I have mixed emotions but I think he'll end up staying with Detroit. This season could possibly turn him aside with the amount of adversity we face. He could be the personality that wants to be with a winning team and doesn't like much adversity in their life. He could possibly think he's worth more than he is, which could be a very realistic thing if he does end up being our leading scorer (not declaring him a greedy ******* right now, just saying it's one avenue of approach). The things going for us: he said Detroit has made his transition really comfortable and if it wasn't for Zetty playing with him over in the SEL, he would really feel uncomfortable. He's going to play with us this whole season, and have some memories attached to it, not exactly something that's easy to walk away from right away. We have the winter classic next year, it's a bargaining chip as many players want to experience something like that within their career. Realistically, I would say he's going to cost around 3.5-4m/season because we don't know his trajectory or potential. He can't demand high money because it was his first season, but he certainly could have bonuses attached to the contract. I think the safe bet would say, 2-3 year extension 3.8/season :P

 

 

 

Because we've never heard the name Damien Brunner anywhere in the Vancouver Media before, not until they all saw him last night, that's why. 

 

Hence, the word is out.



it's way too early to tell if Brunner is worth big money. He's only played 19 games. We don't even know if he has the gas to play a full 82 game season plus playoffs. (the Swiss play only around 50, less physical games)

 

It's Kenny's best interested to get him signed now, before he proves that he can score at this pace for 80 games for more than a season or two.

 

If he continues to prove himself, YIKES, is he in for a big payday.

 

 

And their longest travel day is a 3 hr bus ride.



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

Because we've never heard the name Damien Brunner anywhere in the Vancouver Media before, not until they all saw him last night, that's why. 

 

Hence, the word is out.



 

 

And their longest travel day is a 3 hr bus ride.

I'll take 4 hours on a cushy private plane over 3 hours on a bus any day.



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

Because we've never heard the name Damien Brunner anywhere in the Vancouver Media before, not until they all saw him last night, that's why. 

 

Hence, the word is out.

 

And that's what annoys me. The word was already out about him, teams were after him, teams knew about him, now they're just seeing his transition to the N/A game. He's just finally getting media attention because their team got shat on by him and the Wings. I just find it silly to say, "oh s***, he scored 2 goals last night, now the world knows about him and he's going to be the hot ticket this offseason!" He led the SEL in scoring two seasons, and was the front runner before leaving to come to Detroit. Trust me, teams knew about him, and still do now about him. 


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