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[Crymson]

As pessimistic an atmosphere as this forum can have at times, it has absolutely nothing on the Wings' HFBoards subforum in that category. The majority of posters over there are acting as if this signing means the end of the world. My personal favorite:

 

As long as Lashoff is on our top 6 and on the PK, this team goes nowhere.

 

I like the signing. $725K is well worth it for a solid bottom-pairing defenseman, and Lashoff still has room for improvement.

[joesuffP]

Most teams are thin on defense to be able to trade for a solid D man and not get an NHL ready defenseman back in return. Looks like Kindl will be packaged for a D man.

[Danielsm]

I'm glad we got him locked up, he looks VERY promising.

[kylee]

Brunner next, please. Good signing.

[DSM]

No sorry, not you. The guy above you.

Oh, sorry!

[mmamolo]

Q needs to get WAY better to be worth that 1st rounder....like maybe leading the league in points better...

people always harp on the fact that a 1st rounder was traded for Quincey.  Don't get me wrong, when I heard the news I thought it was a high price as well.  But, ignoring the first chunk of games this season, Quincey has actually been pretty decent.

 

My point is, we should be judging his play based solely on his play - not on the price Holland paid to acquire him.

[joesuffP]

Kronwall-Yandle
Ericsson-Smith
Lashoff-Quincey

White, Huskins

Kindl + Flippula + 2nd for Yandle? Does that cut it?

[DSM]

people always harp on the fact that a 1st rounder was traded for Quincey.  Don't get me wrong, when I heard the news I thought it was a high price as well.  But, ignoring the first chunk of games this season, Quincey has actually been pretty decent.
 
My point is, we should be judging his play based solely on his play - not on the price Holland paid to acquire him.

Exactly. Holland knew that the team was going to lose two dmen going into an offseason with a very thin selection of UFA dmen. Holland did what he could to try and alleviate the loss. On paper Quincey looked good. He had been a solid top 4 dman in LA and was familiar to the Red Wings organization.

The Red Wings needed immediate help on the blueline. Keeping the 1st rounder would've given the Red wings a prospect that realistically wouldn't be making an impact for 4-5 years, who might end up turning into another Kindl... or worse McCollum...

Kindl + Helm + 2nd for Yandle? Does that cut it?

Fixed.

[joesuffP]

I'd trade Helm+Kindl+2nd for Yandle and resign Flippula as a 3rd line center

Sign Perry in the offseason and we're rebuilt

[joesuffP]

Brunner-Zetterberg-Franz
Perry-Datsyuk-Nyquist
Tatar-Flippula-Bertuzzi
Andersson-Abdelkader-Tootoo

Kronwall-Yandle
Smith-Ericsson
Quincey-Dekeseyer

Lashoff

Edited by joesuffP, 25 February 2013 - 07:57 PM.

[DSM]

I'd trade Helm+Kindl+2nd for Yandle and resign Flippula as a 3rd line center

That would actually probably just get the negotiations going. Phoenix would probably push to get Smith instead of Kindl.

[Holmstrom96]

Lashoff on a bad day > Ericsson on a good day times 2

Edited by Holmstrom96, 25 February 2013 - 08:07 PM.

[joesuffP]

Lashoff on a bad day > Ericsson on a good day times 2

Has no idea what he's talking about

[NyquistianDeke]

Lashoff on a bad day > Ericsson on a good day times 2

 

Dumbest thing posted in a long time. Ericsson has been very solid this season

[Crymson]

Kronwall-Yandle
Ericsson-Smith
Lashoff-Quincey

White, Huskins

Kindl + Flippula + 2nd for Yandle? Does that cut it?

 

If you are unhappy about Kronwall's defensive play, you would be very unhappy to have Yandle on this team. It has been said numerous times by numerous people, and I'll say it again: Yandle sucks in the defensive end.

 

Edit: To answer your question, no, that wouldn't do it.

Lashoff on a bad day > Ericsson on a good day times 2

 

In Bizarro World, sure. In the real universe, Ericsson is having an excellent season.

 

On a related note, I learned today that Ericsson is ranked 5th amongst defensemen in even strength points. 

 

 

Brunner-Zetterberg-Franz
Perry-Datsyuk-Nyquist
Tatar-Flippula-Bertuzzi
Andersson-Abdelkader-Tootoo

Kronwall-Yandle
Smith-Ericsson
Quincey-Dekeseyer

Lashoff

 

Barring (among other factors) Bettman allowing the team to circumvent the cap, that roster is not a possibility.

 

 

I'd trade Helm+Kindl+2nd for Yandle and resign Flippula as a 3rd line center

Sign Perry in the offseason and we're rebuilt

 

Phoenix would not bite on that wholly insufficient package.

Edited by Crymson, 25 February 2013 - 08:43 PM.

[evilmrt]

Brunner-Zetterberg-Franz
Perry-Datsyuk-Nyquist
Tatar-Flippula-Bertuzzi
Andersson-Abdelkader-Tootoo

Kronwall-Yandle
Smith-Ericsson
Quincey-Dekeseyer

Lashoff

He's got mad goalie skillz!

[Holmstrom96]

Dumbest thing posted in a long time. Ericsson has been very solid this season

 

Yeah, if solid means being average and not screwing up as much while having no physical presence.

 

Yes, the scoring touch is nice, and if he keeps up the scoring and becomes a threat from the blue-line, I'll gladly eat my words.  However, he's still error and penalty prone (although not as bad as previous seasons).  He's slow to the puck, doesn't use his size at all, and is LESS physical than Pavel Datsyuk.

 

I do give Ericsson credit for dropping the gloves with the one dude a couple games ago, although Tootoo, intercepted the fight.  I was looking forward to see what it would look like to see someone punching down at someone as they ponder how large of a mistake they made.

 

Hopefully Kenny will prove me wrong again on Ericsson.

[wingfanatic4alltime]

Great signing! Now resign Brunner, and Howard.

[Carman]

Yeah, if solid means being average and not screwing up as much while having no physical presence.

 

Yes, the scoring touch is nice, and if he keeps up the scoring and becomes a threat from the blue-line, I'll gladly eat my words.  However, he's still error and penalty prone (although not as bad as previous seasons).  He's slow to the puck, doesn't use his size at all, and is LESS physical than Pavel Datsyuk.

 

I do give Ericsson credit for dropping the gloves with the one dude a couple games ago, although Tootoo, intercepted the fight.  I was looking forward to see what it would look like to see someone punching down at someone as they ponder how large of a mistake they made.

 

Hopefully Kenny will prove me wrong again on Ericsson.

Are you kidding me? Ericsson has been our most consistent defenseman all season. He's been very good, he's taken half the penalties of Kronwall, is really passing the puck well, doing well on the penalty kill, 2nd most hits on defense and playing very strong defensively even strength playing the most minutes he's played in his career.. You are way off on Ericsson so far this season, he's been good, hell I'd even say great.

[shoobiedoobin]

Yeah, if solid means being average and not screwing up as much while having no physical presence.

........ummm...no.