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[kipwinger]

For those people who don't think he should be called up now when we have a million injuries and a mediocre lineup, then when?

 

How old should he be before he's "good" enough to play for this incredibly elite team, which is threatening for the Presidents Trophy yearly?  

 

You guys are unreal.

 

Well, Cleary and Abdelkader both have the some role, so one of them is expendable on that line.

 

I agree, and that's why I think that Tatar should be with Datsyuk and either Cleary or Abby.  Tatar likes to shoot, and has good finishing abilities. 

[The Axe]

Maybe it's more about him than it is our lineup. Maybe the front office sees something you don't. This is totally new toy syndrome. Because how often do we ever get a player from the AHL and think he could've been better if he were called up sooner? I can't think of any examples. Either the player comes up and is what we thought he'd be, or he's a disappointment in the way that time in the AHL had nothing to do with it.

Or he comes up, plays 71 games for us without creating any problems, plays every game the next year again with no problems, and everyone wants him to be let go. Stupidest homer fans I've ever seen sometimes. Don't get on our first 9 forwards for scoring 2 goals a game or the goalie for being Swiss cheese half the time. Blame the 4th line center playing 7 minutes a night.

[Danglesyuk05]

Am I the only one who wants to see him on a line with Pavel and Tatar?

 

Abby and Cleary aren't the right combo. Not saying Nyquist and Tatar would be at this point but it would be a cool trial period at the very least.

 

Typical of the Wings though to let a player sit in the AHL after fans think he is ready to hit the big leagues.

[The Axe]

Am I the only one who wants to see him on a line with Pavel and Tatar?
 
Abby and Cleary aren't the right combo. Not saying Nyquist and Tatar would be at this point but it would be a cool trial period at the very least.
 
Typical of the Wings though to let a player sit in the AHL after fans think he is ready to hit the big leagues.

Yah. What is Samuelsson doing?

[kipwinger]

Am I the only one who wants to see him on a line with Pavel and Tatar?

 

Abby and Cleary aren't the right combo. Not saying Nyquist and Tatar would be at this point but it would be a cool trial period at the very least.

 

Typical of the Wings though to let a player sit in the AHL after fans think he is ready to hit the big leagues.

 

Trying to scratch and claw your way into a playoff spot is not the right time for a "trial period".  When you're comfortably in the playoff mix and aren't getting the production you want out of one or two guys is when you should start getting experimental.  Both Tatar and Nyquist will have good careers, but until Nyquist can center his own line, or find the back of the net consistently, I don't want him anywhere near our top six. 

[Euro_Twins]

Yah. What is Samuelsson doing?

 

Healing a broken finger...

[unsaddleddonald]

Maybe it's more about him than it is our lineup. Maybe the front office sees something you don't. This is totally new toy syndrome. Because how often do we ever get a player from the AHL and think he could've been better if he were called up sooner? I can't think of any examples. Either the player comes up and is what we thought he'd be, or he's a disappointment in the way that time in the AHL had nothing to do with it.

 

I think part of it is that this fanbase wants to see more young top talent. Tatar is definitely a start.

 

The Wings' fanbase wants to see a Jordan Eberle, or a Sean Couturier, etc.

 

We want to see impactful young guys. Obviously they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but we WANT!

[kipwinger]

I think part of it is that this fanbase wants to see more young top talent. Tatar is definitely a start.

 

The Wings' fanbase wants to see a Jordan Eberle, or a Sean Couturier, etc.

 

We want to see impactful young guys. Obviously they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but we WANT!

 

I agree.  You'd think Brunner would be enough, but apparently we need to have two or three new, young, stars before people are happy.  Honestly I'd rather be winning, regardless of who's playing.  And to do that we're going to need veterans to get healthy, and an upgrade on the top defensive pairing.  What we definitely don't need is another small(ish) playmaking forward. 

[Danglesyuk05]

Trying to scratch and claw your way into a playoff spot is not the right time for a "trial period".  When you're comfortably in the playoff mix and aren't getting the production you want out of one or two guys is when you should start getting experimental.  Both Tatar and Nyquist will have good careers, but until Nyquist can center his own line, or find the back of the net consistently, I don't want him anywhere near our top six. 

 

I am with you. It isn't the proper time. I just get excited thinking about the possibility. The line would be missing a bigger guy though.

 

Sad part is once those two guys are in the lineup every game Dats will probably be gone.

[unsaddleddonald]

I agree.  You'd think Brunner would be enough, but apparently we need to have two or three new, young, stars before people are happy.  Honestly I'd rather be winning, regardless of who's playing.  And to do that we're going to need veterans to get healthy, and an upgrade on the top defensive pairing.  What we definitely don't need is another small(ish) playmaking forward. 

 

Winning is all that matters for sure.

 

And to your second point, absent of an acquisition, my hope is that once Smith gets back Ian White will move to the 3rd line where he belongs (i.e. where every other team that has had him in the past has played him at). But that is a different argument.

[shoobiedoobin]

I think part of it is that this fanbase wants to see more young top talent. Tatar is definitely a start.

 

The Wings' fanbase wants to see a Jordan Eberle, or a Sean Couturier, etc.

 

We want to see impactful young guys. Obviously they aren't a dime-a-dozen, but we WANT!

lol

 

RABBLE RABBLE!

[Crymson]

Nyquist will be up next season. One presumes that he will put effort into gaining muscle during the offseason.

[wings1110]

Ide rather see Tatar and Nyquist with pav then cleary and abby. 

[joesuffP]

I think him not playing will be a good thing in the long run. Tatar will be out of options next year and is playing the best hockey of his career. When Nyquist gets his shot he'll play with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove

[kipwinger]

Ide rather see Tatar and Nyquist with pav then cleary and abby. 

 

Why?  Because Tatar has more goals than Cleary while playing higher quality competition and Nyquist is the big bodied power guy that the line needs to dig the puck out of the corners, crash the net, and screen goalies?

[GoalieManPat]

I would like to see Nyquist produce even half of what he does in the AHL in the NHL. Tatar and Andersson have done way more than Nyquist in a lot less time. 

[Carman]

I would like to see Nyquist produce even half of what he does in the AHL in the NHL. Tatar and Andersson have done way more than Nyquist in a lot less time. 

 

Umm, Tatar has 7 points in 20 NHL games.

 

Nyquist has 7 points in 20 NHL games.

 

Now if you want to say Tatar has fit better, I'd agree, but to say Tatar has done way more in less time is just factual wrong.

[shoobiedoobin]

Umm, Tatar has 7 points in 20 NHL games.

 

Nyquist has 7 points in 20 NHL games.

 

Now if you want to say Tatar has fit better, I'd agree, but to say Tatar has done way more in less time is just factual wrong.

I wouldn't even bother with people claiming Nyquist has done nothing. They're trying to view the forest while standing an inch away from a tree.

[GoalieManPat]

I wouldn't even bother with people claiming Nyquist has done nothing. They're trying to view the forest while standing an inch away from a tree.

 

Umm, Tatar has 7 points in 20 NHL games.

 

Nyquist has 7 points in 20 NHL games.

 

Now if you want to say Tatar has fit better, I'd agree, but to say Tatar has done way more in less time is just factual wrong.

 

Where did I say he did nothing?. And my comment was not based just on point production. I based it on the impact being made on the game. Tatar has a knack for being in the spots where the puck finds him. Like Brunner has shown. Tatar hasn't had the luxury of playing with the top line as much as Nyquist did. There are plenty of times where Nyquist disappears where as Tatar seems to be making atleast a small impact on most shifts. Now this could change quickly and he has a dip in form like most rookies do but in my humble opinion Tatar has done 100% more with his chance in the NHL than Nyquist has. 

[The Axe]

 
Why?  Because Tatar has more goals than Cleary while playing higher quality competition and Nyquist is the big bodied power guy that the line needs to dig the puck out of the corners, crash the net, and screen goalies?

One thing I'm not getting is why we have to dig pucks, crash nets, and screen goalies? Don't you like our 50 shots per goal / perimeter game? We do need a makeover with our mentality, but might as well play Nyquist over Cleary and Abdelkader at this point.