MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 3 instances of 5 on 3's lasting almost 2 full mins on each occurrence makes me wonder how the NHL can seriously think the state of the "game" is doing well? Officials 75' away from the play calling penalties when the guy 15' away doesn't have his hand up...really? Then they put the whistles away when the Kings get the lead? I thought the manufactured "drama" was supposed to go both ways? 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 And I'm sorry but these new hand rules are lamer than lame. 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 I hope Babs calls out the refs. Now I know how it feels for every team that got shafted against the kings in the playoffs last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoobiedoobin 138 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Pretty sure my interest in hockey, after 30 years, has just died. Peace. 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Abdelkader and Cleary have a combined 8 points, playing 20 minutes a night with the best player in the world. Abdelkader has a single point, an assist. What are we thinking?! Abdelkader has zero touch when it comes to putting a shot on net or getting his stick on loose pucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 The game was totally jobbed by the refs but this happens everywhere across the league in every game. Not much you can do about it other than bury a couple more of our chances and not let the refs decide the game. Tomorrow isn't going to be any easier either because San Jose will be looking for a win desperately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lesh 93 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) It's funny we've had two lockouts in eight years and the product itself/officiating is worse now than ever. What exactly are the fans getting out of this league? It's not about the fans anymore. It's about ratings and getting the casual/non-fan to watch by promoting the latest winners (Chicago, Pitt, LA etc), and the big TV market teams like NY, Philly and LA. edit: As long as owners and the NHL are turning a profit they couldn't care less. Edited February 28, 2013 by Phil Lesh 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Either blow the whistles the entire game or put em away for the entire game. 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lesh 93 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 the NHL is turning into NASCAR. Green WHite Checker!! Again!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Either blow the whistles the entire game or put em away for the entire game. Blow the whistle until the Kings tie it then let them get away with everything to close it out. 2 esteef and b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 It's not about the fans anymore. It's about ratings and getting the casual/non-fan to watch by promoting the latest winners (Chicago, Pitt, LA etc), and the big TV market teams like NY, Philly and LA. edit: As long as owners and the NHL are turning a profit they couldn't care less. This. It's all focus-group, casual fan pandering. More powerplay, more goals, and whoever has the bigger TV market has a leg up. Bad enough it's a late game, now I'm so irritated I can't get my ass to sleep. 1 bobobrazil reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Sadly, we all were calling it the entire 2nd and 3rd periods...LA was going to get the 'tv ratings' calls to make it a nail biter and hopefully OT. And those jackoffs announcing were more of an embarrassment to the NHL than the zebras! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorCityMadness 388 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 I have to admit I miss the days of the Wings - Avs rivalry when it was at its height...games had to be won by outworking your opponent for every inch of ice, not by being a big media market team on tv during a "nationally" televised game. Hell, WWE is more convincing when it comes to tv "drama" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AusWing40 61 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Refs suck. That isn't new. Missed calls, happens every game. Again it's nothing new. Did it cost us the game? No. Should we have been on a pp? Sure, maybe. We also could have had a shorty scored against us. So skip the hypotheticals and deal with what the people who influence the game the most; the players. Kronwall floating up, Emmerton leaving kopitar after taking down Ericsson. Franzen virtually unsighted all night. Pavel taking penalties on PKs, one an iffy call at best, the hook was fine. Busts his ass all game to provide scoring chances to have cleary and abdelkader do nothing with it. Zetterberg and Brunner weren't great tonight I didn't think. You can piss and moan about refs and penalties they called or didn't call point is the players lost this one, the refs didnt lose it for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Franzen's only move tonight: float, get the puck, turn your back to the play, backhand no-look dump to opposition, check your watch, sigh, head for the bench, repeat. Refs suck. That isn't new. Missed calls, happens every game. Again it's nothing new. Did it cost us the game? No. Should we have been on a pp? Sure, maybe. We also could have had a shorty scored against us. So skip the hypotheticals and deal with what the people who influence the game the most; the players. Kronwall floating up, Emmerton leaving kopitar after taking down Ericsson. Franzen virtually unsighted all night. Pavel taking penalties on PKs, one an iffy call at best, the hook was fine. Busts his ass all game to provide scoring chances to have cleary and abdelkader do nothing with it. Zetterberg and Brunner weren't great tonight I didn't think. You can piss and moan about refs and penalties they called or didn't call point is the players lost this one, the refs didnt lose it for us. Franzen was garbage, bogged down the line with Z and Brunner. Z was great all night, especially on PK. Brunner didn't get much ice because of penalties and the apparent need to get Abdelkader and Cleary 20 minutes each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Franzen's only move tonight: float, get the puck, turn your back to the play, backhand no-look dump to opposition, check your watch, sigh, head for the bench, repeat. Would trade him in a heartbeat for another Tootoo, i think the gentle giant would be more comfortable playing in a league overseas sponsored by charmin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 @AnsarKhanMLive: Cleary and Wings upset with officiating. Cleary got 15 stitches around orbital bone due to high stick in 3rd and no call. @AnsarKhanMLive: Wings also felt Penner hit on Smith deserved penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Refs suck. That isn't new. Missed calls, happens every game. Again it's nothing new. Did it cost us the game? No. Should we have been on a pp? Sure, maybe. We also could have had a shorty scored against us. So skip the hypotheticals and deal with what the people who influence the game the most; the players. Kronwall floating up, Emmerton leaving kopitar after taking down Ericsson. Franzen virtually unsighted all night. Pavel taking penalties on PKs, one an iffy call at best, the hook was fine. Busts his ass all game to provide scoring chances to have cleary and abdelkader do nothing with it. Zetterberg and Brunner weren't great tonight I didn't think. You can piss and moan about refs and penalties they called or didn't call point is the players lost this one, the refs didnt lose it for us. Uh, wrong. While I can safely say I'm usually against using the refs as an excuse, to say they didnt cost us this game is ridiculous. They absolutely deflated our teams momentum, especially considering they wouldnt call squat against the kings. Hockey is just frustrating to watch these days. All these penalties just ruin the game. 2 Ally and CaliforniaWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fat guy in a maltby jersey Report post Posted February 28, 2013 uh, where was the high stick on cleary? the replay showed a shoulder-to-helmet hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AusWing40 61 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Uh, wrong. While I can safely say I'm usually against using the refs as an excuse, to say they didnt cost us this game is ridiculous. They absolutely deflated our teams momentum, especially considering they wouldnt call squat against the kings. Hockey is just frustrating to watch these days. All these penalties just ruin the game. I would say the monumental f*** ups leading to the kopitar goal cost us the game. I refuse to give the players a pass and say the refs cost us the game, didnt happen. We shot ourselves in the foot. Was the officiating bad? Of course it was it has been all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) uh, where was the high stick on cleary? the replay showed a shoulder-to-helmet hit. ya i can see that not being called but the interference on Smith was a clear call that the refs passed on and the Wings got scored on not long after i can see that interference not being called if the game had been pretty free flowing but the refs were giving the Kings 5on3's like no cover coupons outside of a new bar Edited February 28, 2013 by Yak19 1 Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 The refs gifted the kings 1 goal no doubt about it. The second one was a huge breakdown. Then all the missed calls afterwards. The hit on smith was completely blatant. I think the refs figured they were satisfied with this outcome they did there job. No worries about player safety or anything. The worst part is that the riffing will probably be worse in the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 I would say the monumental f*** ups leading to the kopitar goal cost us the game. I refuse to give the players a pass and say the refs cost us the game, didnt happen. We shot ourselves in the foot. Was the officiating bad? Of course it was it has been all season. You're probably right, the officiating which you agree was terrible had less of an impact throughout the entire 2nd and 3rd periods than a single play that probably happened because hey, our momentum was ruined and the kings was boosted. I've watched every game, as I'm sure a bunch of others have, and I never once wanted to blame the refs. This one was obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ally 448 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) I'm definitely not the kind of person to blame the refs for a loss (I'll leave that up to the Canucks fans) but in this instance I'm gonna make an exception and say that officiating was a key factor in the Kings win. Beyond mad that this game was the difference between 4th and 10th in the standings. And on a different but related topic, did anyone see LA's twitter account tonight. I'm all for the NHL social media accounts interacting and showing personality...unless that personality is a terrible, classless one. Edited February 28, 2013 by Ally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted February 28, 2013 Without the refs f*** ups Our players are not in the position to f*** up themselves. Im not generally a ref basher and think players just need to play thru it BUT to play ur ass off and get beat down by the refs is deflating and honestly had we come out in top that would have been a remarkable win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites