dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Who plays the net front role better on that second PP than Abby? I like how the Chicago player jumping between the benches negates the too many men penalty. Franzen or Andersson. Or Tootoo. Or my mother. But that's besidea the point. It's 5-on-5 Abdelkader and Cleary are bringing down our offense. Don't you see how they lose every puck battle along the boards? How they dump the puck when Pavel wants a pass, and pass when they should dump? How they're too slow to keep up with the play, don't shoot the puck well enough to take any advantage of Pavel's passes... Babcock has got to see this. Or his assistant coaches. If nothing happens in the 3rd... wow. Tatar or Franzen needs to be put with Pav. Tatar preferably. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunslinger 8 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Franzen is no longer "The Mule", he should be called "Driftwood". He just floats around like dead wood... Get rid of him Kenny!!! 2 b.shanafan14 and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WINGS & FLOW 25 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 You're telling us to kidnap Dan Cleary and Justin Abdelkader!!?! Interesting idea... I'll get rope and shovels, someone get a van and pick me up. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Are you an adult? Yup. Did I say I wished he would get hurt? Nope. Just that I looked forward to the time that he is out again. Chances are it will happen soon. Its no different than saying " I cant wait for the guy above me at work to get fired because he doesnt do his job." Edited March 3, 2013 by GoalieManPat 1 Gunslinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Geesus that man hates the Wings.....uses the word 'embarrassed' twice in same segment. I want a Bruins/ Hawks finals and eddi o and jack Edwards together on commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 I want a Bruins/ Hawks finals and eddi o and jack Edwards together on commentary. Instead of game 7 they could just do a no rules deathmatch between the two. Hockey fans will rejoice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 The sad thing about out offense is, it won't get any better when healthy....Filppula yes, but Sammy and Bert wouldn't be the difference maker here... I like how the D is shaping up and gelling together. I am not sold on Q and Kindl yet, but the more they play, the more I notice better things out of them...too bad Franzine & Cleary are still digressing....I am not so sure that D is our number one priority to fix right anymore...if we could fine a REAL player to play with Datsyuk and a better player to flank Z and Brunner, we may be in nice shape....who though? Why not just give Tatar the try with Datsyuk? Huh? It isn't going to hurt...Cleary isn't a bad 3rd/4th liner, but he is horrid anywhere else.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Greek 323 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Yup. Did I say I wished he would get hurt? Nope. Just that I looked forward to the time that he is out again. Chances are it will happen soon. Its no different than saying " I cant wait for the guy above me to get fired because he doesnt do his job."You're really going to try and make that claim? By saying you're waiting for him to get hurt and commenting on the team's play without him clearly shows some thinly veiled desire for him to receive an injury that will cause him to miss playing time. It's pathetic that a supposed adult would vie for an injury to another person over a ******* game. Edited March 3, 2013 by The Greek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Neither are really. We shouldn't have a guy with 1 point in 20 games on the PP, and Franzen should have to earn his ice time. This. 20 minutes a night on Datsyuk's wing and PP time with 1 point through 21 games. I don't care how much better you're looking, no one should have that statline under those circumstances. Period. Tootoo has more of everything and doing so with much less. Franzen hasn't had to earn ice time in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted March 3, 2013 If I'm babcock I roll with Tatar-Zetterberg-Brunner Franzen-Datsyuk-Tootoo Cleary-Abs-Miller Andersson-Emmerton-Eaves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing-in-avs-town 123 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Gosh I miss Flippula and Bertuzzi. I like Cleary but he's just outmatched Not Flip 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Franzen or Andersson. Or Tootoo. Or my mother. But that's besidea the point. It's 5-on-5 Abdelkader and Cleary are bringing down our offense. Don't you see how they lose every puck battle along the boards? How they dump the puck when Pavel wants a pass, and pass when they should dump? How they're too slow to keep up with the play, don't shoot the puck well enough to take any advantage of Pavel's passes... Babcock has got to see this. Or his assistant coaches. If nothing happens in the 3rd... wow. Tatar or Franzen needs to be put with Pav. Tatar preferably. They do, they just refuse to do anything about it. Insanity = Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 we need to see Luon8o in net again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 If I'm babcock I roll with Tatar-Zetterberg-Brunner Franzen-Datsyuk-Tootoo Cleary-Abs-Miller Andersson-Emmerton-Eaves Yes, please. I like the way you think. 1 Wings_Toledo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Geesus that man hates the Wings.....uses the word 'embarrassed' twice in same segment. I want a Bruins/ Hawks finals and eddi o and jack Edwards together on commentary. That would be brutal. We might even see an actual fist figh there between those two Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Neither are really. We shouldn't have a guy with 1 point in 20 games on the PP, and Franzen should have to earn his ice time. I'd like to see Franzen off there too and have Eaves-Andersson to replace Abs-Mule. That would send a clear message about earning your ice time. On the PP it isn't about scoring for the guy working the front of the net. Hommer was rare. Most of the time, the front guy is there to take a beating and block the vision of the G. abby is doing that. I have no issues with the job he is doing. But franzen needs to be replaced. try Andersson, he can't do any worse. if he doesn't get the job done, then the next guy. I don't care if they try Ericsson-he was a C most of his life. But we need some power forwards. Heck Big Buff would be perfect......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Franzen or Andersson. Or Tootoo. Or my mother. But that's besidea the point. It's 5-on-5 Abdelkader and Cleary are bringing down our offense. Don't you see how they lose every puck battle along the boards? How they dump the puck when Pavel wants a pass, and pass when they should dump? How they're too slow to keep up with the play, don't shoot the puck well enough to take any advantage of Pavel's passes... Babcock has got to see this. Or his assistant coaches. If nothing happens in the 3rd... wow. Tatar or Franzen needs to be put with Pav. Tatar preferably. It's not beside the point. The point is that Abby plays well in front of the net on the PP. What evidence is there that Andersson plays well in front of the net? What evidence is there that Tootoo can make himself big enough to effectively screen the goalie? Or do you just want a change because 5-on-5 you are unhappy? 5-on-5 I don't think you'll find anyone here who thinks Abby-Dats-Cleary is a good line. That doesn't mean that these players are useless at any other part of the game. Homer-Dats-Cleary (with today's Cleary and 2009 Homer) would have also been a terrible line, but it wouldn't have meant Homer is bad on the PP. Just because a player is being utilized incorrectely does not mean that player is a bad player in all situations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing-in-avs-town 123 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 What if Cleary scores the GWG with seconds left, and skates by the Hawks bench taunting Quenneville, and then breaks his stick to signify, "breaking the streak". Then, I'd give him immunity the rest of the season here. Same deal for Frazen? 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Thing is, that in spite of not getting at least three calls (two trips, one high stick), our boyz are picking up their game as a TEAM, and finally playing like they are thinking about meaning it. GO, WINGS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 You're really going to try and make that claim? By saying you're waiting for him to get hurt and commenting on the team's play without him clearly shows some thinly veiled desire for him to receive an injury that will cause him to miss playing time. It's pathetic that a supposed adult would vie for an injury to another person over af****** game. Again I say show me where I say I hope he gets hurt. Use those fancy little quote buttons of the forum to do so. Please do and then you can tell me what I meant by my post. Saying a team looks better without a player who has been prone to injury sure does translate into I HOPE HE DIES! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Over the last 15 years How many times have we pulled the Globetrotter s*** and just dazzle teams with our puck possession, stars and talent only to lose 0-1......hoping for blue collar slop goAl here in the 3rd to bust up this streak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Man, the Hawks slobberfest is getting pretty annoying 1 b.shanafan14 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lesh 93 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Let's carry some of that momentum over into this third period and score a damn goal, or five. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Namingway 146 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Come ooooon regulation win! 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted March 3, 2013 Thing is, that in spite of not getting at least three calls (two trips, one high stick), our boyz are picking up their game as a TEAM, and finally playing like they are thinking about meaning it. GO, WINGS!!! I like the 'compete level', it's just frustrating to see our best offensive player be handcuffed when we desperately need scoring. 2 Vladifan and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites