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#1 vladdy16

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:25 PM

I freakin' HATE expansion drafts, but in reality at least one is looming, so who do we protect and who do we let get picked up?

 


Can't wait to read the "Phoenix: I still think it's a hockey market" chapter of Gary Bettman's autobiography. I'm guessing it's going to be chapter 11.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:44 PM

thats 2 years from now roster will change by then



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:48 PM

Well, if we're using the 2000 Expansion Draft as a guideline, via Wikipedia:

 

"26 of the 28 teams existing in the league at the time of the draft were each allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards.

For teams protecting only one goaltender, there was no experience requirement for those left unprotected. For teams protecting two goaltenders, each goaltender left unprotected must have appeared in either 10 NHL games in the 1999–2000 season or 25 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. A goaltender had to be in net for at least 31 minutes in each game for the game to be counted against these totals.

At least one defenceman left unprotected by each team had to have appeared in at least 40 games in the 1999–2000 season or 70 games in the 1998–99 season and1999–2000 seasons combined. At least two forwards left unprotected by each team had to have met the same requirements."

 

The goaltender bit is brutal... guess under those rules, we wouldn't be able to protect two of them (Jimmy and Mrazek) unless we let McCollum walk this offseason so he isn't on our roster (because he has less than 10 NHL games played)? Am I reading that right? Leave Quincy unprotected (to satisfy the 40 game requirement)... It actually seems easier to tap players that *wouldn't* be protected! haha



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:57 PM

http://www.thehockey...-decisions.html

 

Article from the end of November in The Hockey News about the possible expansion draft and the rules about who each team can protect, including a list of projected players each team would/could/should protect. Essentially, if it goes like it did in 2000, we get to protect either: 1 goaltender, 5 defensemen, and 9 forwards OR 2 goaltenders, 3 defensemen, and 7 forwards.

 

Howard

Kronwall, Lashoff, Ericsson, Smith, Kindl

Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Brunner, Franzen, Helm, Filppula, Tootoo, Tatar, Nyquist

(Still unsure how things work with prospects like Tatar and Nyquist, assuming they are in play)



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:06 PM

thats 2 years from now roster will change by then

It might be, but they will draft well before they start. I suspect there's more in place than we know. I realize the roster might change, but I don't think by a whole heck of a lot.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:20 PM

No way in hell this league can expand with the mess Pho is right now.

Too many teams are struggling, contraction is a better idea than expansion.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:25 PM

It might be, but they will draft well before they start. I suspect there's more in place than we know. I realize the roster might change, but I don't think by a whole heck of a lot.

 

how can they draft well before they start? theyll draft in 2 years they wont have  bunch of player sit time out  we still have time



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:33 PM

As far as I'm concerned, you shouldn't have to protect guys that you drafted and developed.  The only guys that you should have to protect are guys that you acquired via trade or UFA/RFA signing.  No team should be able to turn around and take a guy like Mrazek, Nyquist, Tatar or Smith.  I actually hope the league with as mentioned above teams like the Yotes struggling that they don't expand until there's actually 30 healthy teams in the NHL.  Not just 12 teams making profits.



 Rumors of expansion could also provoke a string of 1 year signings for players until this acually happened.  If the player is UFA until the draft was completed, then the team could sign their deals the next day and have a verbal agreement until then so they could protect more of their players.  I would have a serious discussion with any players i'm re-signing if i'm the GM to let them know they're part of the plan, but so is everyone else that's signed long term.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:34 PM

How about we have a contraction draft. That will be much more fun! Dissolve two struggling franchises (Phoenix and....) and sell it for parts.



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

 Yet another question.  Would you have to protect players that are on an ELC?


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:41 PM

and just for the fun of it if it comes down to howard or mrazek theres no way the wings will let go of mrazek so howard will likely get dealt before hand so we can actually get something and then leave like gustafsson unprotected

 

and as for forwards im sure franzen will be unprotected as im sure no one will take his longterm deal anyways

 

datsyuk zetterberg brunner helm tatar andersson nyquist filppula  and last pick is abdelkader or tootoo

 

assuming we dont trade any youth and resign filppula and brunner thats who id say will be our 9 protected

 

kronwall ericsson smith quincey lashoff

 

we wont protect aging players and i think every team can only lose 2 players so i wouldnt worry too much



As far as I'm concerned, you shouldn't have to protect guys that you drafted and developed.  The only guys that you should have to protect are guys that you acquired via trade or UFA/RFA signing.  No team should be able to turn around and take a guy like Mrazek, Nyquist, Tatar or Smith.  I actually hope the league with as mentioned above teams like the Yotes struggling that they don't expand until there's actually 30 healthy teams in the NHL.  Not just 12 teams making profits.



 Rumors of expansion could also provoke a string of 1 year signings for players until this acually happened.  If the player is UFA until the draft was completed, then the team could sign their deals the next day and have a verbal agreement until then so they could protect more of their players.  I would have a serious discussion with any players i'm re-signing if i'm the GM to let them know they're part of the plan, but so is everyone else that's signed long term.

if mrazek is in grand rapids id have to guess hed be safe though



How about we have a contraction draft. That will be much more fun! Dissolve two struggling franchises (Phoenix and....) and sell it for parts.

 

relocation would be the best thing but f*cken bettman wants more $$$ so thats why he wants new franchises so they pay 2-300 million



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:43 PM

I really hope there is no expansion..this league is watered down enough as it is.  Give Phoenix to another more deserving city and move on ...


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

http://www.thehockey...-decisions.html

 

Article from the end of November in The Hockey News about the possible expansion draft and the rules about who each team can protect, including a list of projected players each team would/could/should protect. Essentially, if it goes like it did in 2000, we get to protect either: 1 goaltender, 5 defensemen, and 9 forwards OR 2 goaltenders, 3 defensemen, and 7 forwards.

 

Howard

Kronwall, Lashoff, Ericsson, Smith, Kindl

Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Brunner, Franzen, Helm, Filppula, Tootoo, Tatar, Nyquist

(Still unsure how things work with prospects like Tatar and Nyquist, assuming they are in play)

 

That core looks so much better to me than what we have now.  Color me excited for an expansion draft in this case.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:15 PM

That core looks so much better to me than what we have now.  Color me excited for an expansion draft in this case.

Aside from Nyquist, that core IS what we have now.







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