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#1 Mater_Horn

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:47 PM

Why not?

 

Let's face it. Brunner was expected to be good with good linemates, such as Z and Dats. Everyone, including myself, thought that Z and Brunner would be a good match, since they've done so well in the Swiss league during the lockout.

 

Now, we've seen that:

 

a) Brunner can score

b) Brunner + Z can work in the NHL well, but sometimes they don't. They're still very good, but not great.

c) Brunner + Dats usually don't work too well (except in the PP probably).

 

I didn't think Brunner would be any good in a 3rd line. But I think this is the time to try it. Let Brunner play with Tatar & Tootoo! Give them some ice time, and let's see how they do! Tatar and Tootoo have both been working very hard all the time, and I think that they could probably be a good fit for Brunner's sniper abilities. Brunner needs guys who work hard along his side. Tootoo and Tatar do. And of course, the two can score as well!

 

That, of course, is not to say that Brunner isn't good enough for a 1st or 2nd line! I'm just trying to figure out the best lines overall, looking at the first 26 games this season, hoping for the best for the Red Wings.

 

 



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:51 PM

Tell that to Babs.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:52 PM

Taking Brunner off the top line isn't going to help them. Adding Tatar to dats and leaving Brunner with z is best IMO. Then with fil back u have him and Nyquist( please god make it happen) as your third. Then u match up big guys with them. Since all we have is franzen and Sammy or Bert on too two. Abby in third.

That's recipe for success. But since its make sense it won't happen and well continue to see almighty cleary with dats.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

Why is our top scorer being put on the 3rd line? I would rather move Z to center the 3rd line than move Brunner. Brunner is at least productive, Z is clearly struggling to do just about everything right now. 

 

I think that Tatar should be moved up though. I think that the top 2 lines should look something like:

 

Brunner-Z-Franzen

Tatar-Dats-who cares right now but I guess Abs

 

Just put Cleary out of the top 6.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:56 PM

I honestly wouldn't mind dats franzen and Tatar. Then z and Brunner at wing at putting Anderson at center. Maybe take some pressure of z. And a big body is good. Just so few to choose.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

Why is our top scorer being put on the 3rd line?

 

Again, I'm not saying that Brunner needs to be in the 3rd line cos he wasn't good enough for the 1st or 2nd. I don't mind letting Brunner in the 1st/2nd line (these two lines don't make any significant difference anyway atm, right?). He can even play with Z. My point is that Brunner needs another "hard worker" next to his side. Z is one, but if that doesn't work out, and it hasn't, in the last couple of games, why not try some other guys, like Tootoo or Tatar?

 

Babs will try playing him with at least one of the two... I'm sure.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

That line wouldn't be strong enough defensively IMO. Brunner has improved his backchecking and puck strength since entering the NHL, but he still has some work to do. Tatar has had some defensive struggle, but he has been good enough. Tootoo has been alright in the Wings zone, but he hasn't been put in key defensive situations often.

 

The bigger problem with that line is faceoffs. None of those players are centers, and I'm not sure how any of them would do in the faceoff circle.

 

Another note: In OT tonight Babs put Abby out with Dats for a faceoff in the Wings' zone. Abby went to the bench after the faceoff was won for Brunner, but it shows Babs doesn't trust Brunner to take faceoffs (if Dats was thrown out) and/or defensively in key situations.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:15 PM

That line wouldn't be strong enough defensively IMO. Brunner has improved his backchecking and puck strength since entering the NHL, but he still has some work to do. Tatar has had some defensive struggle, but he has been good enough. Tootoo has been alright in the Wings zone, but he hasn't been put in key defensive situations often.

 

The bigger problem with that line is faceoffs. None of those players are centers, and I'm not sure how any of them would do in the faceoff circle.

 

Another note: In OT tonight Babs put Abby out with Dats for a faceoff in the Wings' zone. Abby went to the bench after the faceoff was won for Brunner, but it shows Babs doesn't trust Brunner to take faceoffs (if Dats was thrown out) and/or defensively in key situations.

 

 

Tatar would do the faceoffs :eh:

 

Both Tatar and Brunner are listed as Centers officially.

 

Defensive liability? Maybe you're right there! Brunner-Tatar-Tootoo could be hell of an offensive line, but likely they won't do too good defensively.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:47 PM

...wait, I though Datsyuk was already centering the 4th line...


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

No line is good without Abdelkader!



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:08 PM

No line is good without Abdelkader!

 

Hah, why not!?

 

Abdelkader has shown some remarkable aggressivness. He could be as good as Tootoo and Tatar are. Just let Brunner play with guys who are hot. Especially then he wil score.


Edited by Mater_Horn, 10 March 2013 - 10:23 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:25 PM

Tatar would do the faceoffs :eh:

 

Both Tatar and Brunner are listed as Centers officially.

 

Defensive liability? Maybe you're right there! Brunner-Tatar-Tootoo could be hell of an offensive line, but likely they won't do too good defensively.

 

While they both may be listed as centers on NHL.com, they aren't in any way, shape, or form.  You would have to see plenty of injuries (like to Hank, Pavs, Flip, Emmerton, Abby, Andersson, & Franzen all at the same time not to mention Helm) & a lack of call-ups (Sheahan, Ferraro, Aubry)  to see either one of those two center a line.  



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

While they both may be listed as centers on NHL.com, they aren't in any way, shape, or form.  You would have to see plenty of injuries (like to Hank, Pavs, Flip, Emmerton, Abby, Andersson, & Franzen all at the same time not to mention Helm) & a lack of call-ups (Sheahan, Ferraro, Aubry)  to see either one of those two center a line.  

 

I agree. Neither Brunner nor Tatar make for a good Center, per definition. But hey, why not give it a shot? Especially in a situation where we're trailing by 1, like in the Blue Jacket's game..?.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:15 PM

Fil is coming back and Fil-Z-Brunner looked good before he was injured. Will take some pressure off Z and give him some help carrying the puck.

Datsyuk needs Franzen, but imo he should also have Tatar or Nyquist.

It's clear we don't have enough skill in the lineup, our offense looks so static and simple. Filppula helps but Nyquist sold be brought up too. Don't care if our top 6 gets a bit softer and smaller, atleast they'll be able to make some creative plays and not just grind it out in the corners.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:36 PM

There was at least once tonight when I saw Cleary had been moved up to Z's line and Franzen was back with Datsyuk.  I didn't get to watch the game, but clipped through to watch a few minutes around each goal to see how they worked out.  Was there a legit reason for that switch, or was it because of a long shift or injury?



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:25 AM

Holland screwed the whole thing up, he should of rented Semin for a season at 6 million instead of wasting cap space. Wings can't score. Flipulla and Helm will help the situation, but still need a another top 6 forward. Let Gustav be that guy, and get rid of Cleary, Abs, Sammy and Bertuzzi. Bunch of injured, unreliable, or lazy bums. Those three of the four should be gone next season, keep one of Sammy or Bert, haven't seen enough of them to make a decision.


Edited by TheOwl, 11 March 2013 - 12:27 AM.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:27 AM

Dont think puting the wings leading goal scorer with a 4th liner who plays like 9min is smart.   Z and Brunner are the only two people that should not be split up



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 06:25 AM

if anything put toots and tatar with datsyuk. Z is slumping which is a reason why brunner isnt scoring, still getting assist though



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 06:54 AM

How about Tatar - Datsyuk - Brunner? Small yes, but quick and deadly....you cannot hit what you cannot catch, unless you do it illegally...

 

You can put Cleary with Z for a bit and that will help Z get back on track since Cleary is CLEARLY the key to our top 6 success....


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:17 AM

How about Tatar - Datsyuk - Brunner? Small yes, but quick and deadly....you cannot hit what you cannot catch, unless you do it illegally...

 

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