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[Richdg]

http://www.thefourth.../buf130311.html

 

This would be a good pick up for us. Kinda the anti-franzen. Doesn't have franzen's skill, but plays harder and with effort. good for 25 or so G's and plays both ends of the ice. only 27 and signed for 2 more years.

[SwedeLundin77]

Stafford and Regehr or Leopold would be a nice pickup for the Wings.  Stafford would be an upgrade on the 2nd line and has right handed shot, while Regehr is a steady top 4 d-man and Leopold is more offensive of a d-man.

 

What would a trade for them make?  I am pretty sure the relationship between KH and Regier is solid, so this could very likely be a good move for both clubs.

[Richdg]

Stafford and Regehr or Leopold would be a nice pickup for the Wings.  Stafford would be an upgrade on the 2nd line and has right handed shot, while Regehr is a steady top 4 d-man and Leopold is more offensive of a d-man.

 

What would a trade for them make?  I am pretty sure the relationship between KH and Regier is solid, so this could very likely be a good move for both clubs.

They are heading for a rebuild. So youth and picks. The totals would depend on what we take. Both of those D's are UFA's IIRC, so filppula would get one of them. Nyquist would be part of it.

[DSM]

They are heading for a rebuild. So youth and picks. The totals would depend on what we take. Both of those D's are UFA's IIRC, so filppula would get one of them. Nyquist would be part of it.

 

Wrong.

 

If Buffalo is heading for a rebuild, why would they send away a UFA dman for a UFA forward? That doesn't help their rebuild effort AT ALL. Plus, getting rid of Filppula would make the Wings offense worse. If Holland's trying to make the team better to get to the playoffs why would he get rid of Filppula?

Edited by DSM, 12 March 2013 - 09:31 AM.

[SwedeLundin77]

As stated before, I would bring Stafford here and one of Regehr/Leopold.  It is a no-brainer.  A defensive defenseman and a right handed shooter.

[MabusIncarnate]

I wouldn't mind Stafford...................... I think he would be a good fit here.................. underrated player that can help out our scoring........................

[DSM]

He seems to be struggling this season, though. It would be a risk to bring him and his $4mil a season cap hit in when Detroit needs cap space to resign key players this offseason.

 

Plus, if Holland gives up assetts for him and he comes here and STILL struggles, he'd get bagged on here harder than Quincey and Samuelsson COMBINED.

[DetroitRedWings1993]

It's a risk, but a risk worth taking.  He's a good player.  He could definitely fill a need and help us out.

[DSM]

It's a risk, but a risk worth taking.  He's a good player.  He could definitely fill a need and help us out.

 

Some said the same thing about Quincey at last years deadline...

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

Stafford is ok I just don't see it happening.

[Crymson]

Stafford and Regehr or Leopold would be a nice pickup for the Wings.  Stafford would be an upgrade on the 2nd line and has right handed shot, while Regehr is a steady top 4 d-man and Leopold is more offensive of a d-man.

 

What would a trade for them make?  I am pretty sure the relationship between KH and Regier is solid, so this could very likely be a good move for both clubs.

 

Leopold is having a horrific season.

 

Stafford would cost a lot.

[Richdg]

Leopold is having a horrific season.

 

Stafford would cost a lot.

Not really. Nyquist and pick (2nd) would get it done. he is having a done year as has the whole damn team. he is a recent 30 goal scorer though. Change of teams would do him wonders.

[Crymson]

Not really. Nyquist and pick (2nd) would get it done.

 

Do you have a direct line to Darcy Regier? If not, then your claim is absolutely arbitrary.

[DSM]

Not really. Nyquist and pick (2nd) would get it done. he is having a done year as has the whole damn team. he is a recent 30 goal scorer though. Change of teams would do him wonders.

 

Worked great for Dustin Penner and LA...

[DetroitRedWings1993]

 
Some said the same thing about Quincey at last years deadline...

That risk backfired, yes. But this team needs a trade. Anyone who has watched this team as closely as I have all season knows that even when at least mostly healthy, this team has NO teeth and can't score in any situation.

[DSM]

That risk backfired, yes. But this team needs a trade. Anyone who has watched this team as closely as I have all season knows that even when at least mostly healthy, this team has NO teeth and can't score in any situation.

Sure this team needs to make some changes, but I'm sorry Stafford isn't the guy. He's on pace for 6 goals in an 82 game season and is a team worst -8 for Buffalo. The guy would make no difference here.

[DetroitRedWings1993]

Sure this team needs to make some changes, but I'm sorry Stafford isn't the guy. He's on pace for 6 goals in an 82 game season and is a team worst -8 for Buffalo. The guy would make no difference here.

Buffalo's centers are also far-and-away worse than ours are. Buffalo isn't a good team all around. Plus-minus can be a misleading stat. He's a risk, I acknowledged that. He could end up not doing a whole lot. But are we really in a position to be that picky? He's relatively young, relatively cheap and isn't signed for too much longer. Getting Stafford would be a helluva lot better than standing pat and continuing to decline while everyone around us gets better. Again.

Edited by DetroitRedWings1993, 14 March 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[DSM]

Buffalo's centers are also far-and-away worse than ours are. Buffalo isn't a good team all around. Plus-minus can be a misleading stat. He's a risk, I acknowledged that. He could end up not doing a whole lot. But are we really in a position to be that picky? He's relatively young, relatively cheap and isn't signed for too much longer. Getting Stafford would be a helluva lot better than standing pat and continuing to decline while everyone around us gets better. Again.

 

We are when he has a $4mil cap hit and the Wings have players to resign and fit under the cap for next season. And the fact that the price is going to be high (Like a decent prospect and a 1st rounder high), for a guy who's middle name could be changed to "Inconsistent".

 

Holland could probably better utilize that $4mil a season in the UFA market, and not have to cough up any assets.

 

Pass.

 

/End.

Edited by DSM, 14 March 2013 - 04:58 PM.

[DetroitRedWings1993]

We are when he has a $4mil cap hit and the Wings have players to resign and fit under the cap for next season. And the fact that the price is going to be high (Like a decent prospect and a 1st rounder high), for a guy who's middle name could be changed to "Inconsistent".

 

Holland could probably better utilize that $4mil a season in the UFA market, and not have to cough up any assets.

 

Pass.

 

/End.

Holland doing anything on the UFA market is far from a sure thing.  I highly doubt anything gets done this offseason but a few resignings.  I expect Fil to be gone and Holland to spend all summer trying to trade Franzen and his horrible contract.  If he couldn't get Suter and Parise, he's not going to get Perry.  There aren't any really valuable defenseman on the market this summer, either.  None in the mold of what we're looking for.  Stafford could help now.  Waiting for free agency guarantees that we continue backpeddling.

[DSM]

Holland doing anything on the UFA market is far from a sure thing.  I highly doubt anything gets done this offseason but a few resignings.  I expect Fil to be gone and Holland to spend all summer trying to trade Franzen and his horrible contract.  If he couldn't get Suter and Parise, he's not going to get Perry.  There aren't any really valuable defenseman on the market this summer, either.  None in the mold of what we're looking for.  Stafford could help now.  Waiting for free agency guarantees that we continue backpeddling.

Cmon now, if you're going to come in here and talk trades, atleast know what you're talking about.

Parise and Suter not coming here had little to do with Holland. For the 142,454,746,346,534,866,345th time. PARISE WANTED TO PLAY IN MINNESOTA AND SUTER WANTED TO PLAY WITH PARISE. Seriously... and it'll have nothing to do with Hollands chances of signing Perry...

Holland didn't do "nothing" last summer. They may not all be the most popular additions, but on top of trying to add Parise and Suter, he signed 4 players.

Trade Franzen? Oh, I get it. An unrealistic NHL13 dream.

Try again.

Edited by DSM, 14 March 2013 - 07:24 PM.