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[HankthaTank]

Cleary and Abby both need to go. too slow and no skill. The Wings have way better options. Holland has some cuts to make and he needs to do it.

 

With Helm coming back shortly (I hope) and Flip back on Wednesday there will be some healthy scratches regardless. Oh, and Sammy too I guess....

[MabusIncarnate]

Tater nuts nooooo

[Red Crazy]

how long before Nyquist gets bumped down a line and Cleary gets moved up with Dats?

 

Over/Under 5 shifts

Under unless this is showcasing Gus for a trade with Calgary???????

[Euro_Twins]

I personally believe this is more of a move to bring nyquist into the top 6 cause he is better defensively and drop cleary/abby down to the 3/4 line

[evilzyme]

how long before Nyquist gets bumped down a line and Cleary gets moved up with Dats?

 

Over/Under 5 shifts

 

If he's in the same house as Tatar, maybe a full 30 second shift. Babcock has something with Tatar...

[Motown4013]

wow....what the #CK does a dude have to do to stay on this team? Tatar has been much more than anyone anticipated and yet he gets yanked. I dont care if its to see what Gus can do...he has played a way onto the team and has been better than at least half the roster. Its completely idiotic

[HankthaTank]

I personally believe this is more of a move to bring nyquist into the top 6 cause he is better defensively and drop cleary/abby down to the 3/4 line

I like having Gus here again but they could have easily brought Tatar up to top 6 the way he has played. Definitely more behind this than just a clean swap. We will see.

[Kindl Surprise]

The griffins must be struggling this year? gotta send down one of best better players with some energy and some flipin HEART and passion, something that i have not seen here for a long time and have never seen from franzen

[Euro_Twins]

I like having Gus here again but they could have easily brought Tatar up to top 6 the way he has played. Definitely more behind this than just a clean swap. We will see.

 

With Helm, Flip, and Sammy returning shortly he will have to be sent down anyways, they probably want someone responsible defensively playing alongside datsyuk until flip and sammy come back, because helm will be back soon too and centering the third line again, and then cleary will be on his wing unfortunately

[Reds4Life]

LOL @ Babcock and Holland.

f*** you guys, seriously. I hope they are both fired before the next season starts. Incompetent fools.

[Carman]

I don't really like this and I'm a huge Nyquist guy. Tatar provides the offensive we've been sorely lacking. Fact is with this move Holland/Babcck are not putting the best players on the team. I hope it's just a short term move, before a bigger move, but preemptive tips of the hand don't happen like that. Puzzling, but I hope this is just a move to see who they are going to waive when Sammy/Filp/Bert and Helm get back.

[cupforwings]

Holland also is hesitant to bring up Nyquist unless he plays on a top-two line.  http://www.mlive.com...discover_s.html

 

So it appears Holland feels the same way as a lot of you guys.  It looks like he will probably be playing in the top 6.  I think he will help, and having Filpula back will be huge as well.  

 

As for sending down Tatar... so what?  He played good up here when given the chance.  He proved that he is a solid offensive guy.  But the way the roster works, they have to send him down.  It makes complete sense when you think about it.  Why would they cut an extra forward to make room for a guy who can be retained in GR when new injuries are bound to happen?

 

LOL @ Babcock and Holland.

f*** you guys, seriously. I hope they are both fired before the next season starts. Incompetent fools.

Just because they sent down Tatar? Seriously? haha, talk about an overreaction.

Edited by cupforwings, 12 March 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[Euro_Twins]

LOL @ Babcock and Holland.

f*** you guys, seriously. I hope they are both fired before the next season starts. Incompetent fools.

 

Yes, fire the man who managed to keep us playoff contenders when kenny was unable to secure a top pairing dman, or a power forward... I don't like the cleary-pasha-abby line, but you have to admit babs has done a good job coaching our young roster

[MibJab]

Should be keeping Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson in the lineup. 

 

Franzen, Datsyuk, Nyquist

Zetterberg, Fillpula, Brunner

Tatar, Helm, Eaves

Tootoo, Andersson, Miller 

Abdelkader

 

That should be our lines. Speed down the middle, and scoring on the wing. The only thing they lack is size and hard physical play on the top 2 lines. in 82 games your top 2 lines should be responsible for at least 120 goals. Bottom lines should be responsible for at least 40 goals and somewhere around an even plus minus. The defense, goalie, and heart of the forward lines should be responsible for wins. 

[mmamolo]

I definitely LOL'd when I read that.

 

I would LOVE to have Cleary claimed off waivers!

 

 

What risk?  Losing Cleary or Abby wouldn't hurt this team.  

 

Those guys are just plugs.

You guys are misinterpreted what I wrote...despite the fact you or I would rather ditch Cleary (or Abs) to another team as opposed to sending Tatar down is irrelevent.  The Wings just wouldn't do that.  Knowing that, sending Tatar down was the move that made sense.

[Johnz96]

WTF???

Tatar has been one of our best players.

That is just assinine

[Johnz96]

So it appears Holland feels the same way as a lot of you guys.  It looks like he will probably be playing in the top 6.  I think he will help, and having Filpula back will be huge as well.  

 

As for sending down Tatar... so what?  He played good up here when given the chance.  He proved that he is a solid offensive guy.  But the way the roster works, they have to send him down.  It makes complete sense when you think about it.  Why would they cut an extra forward to make room for a guy who can be retained in GR when new injuries are bound to happen?

 

Just because they sent down Tatar? Seriously? haha, talk about an overreaction.

A team that doesn't play it's best players won't do as good as they would if they did and Tatar has been one of our best

[Euro_Twins]

Should be keeping Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson in the lineup. 

 

Franzen, Datsyuk, Nyquist

Zetterberg, Fillpula, Brunner

Tatar, Helm, Eaves

Tootoo, Andersson, Miller 

Abdelkader

 

That should be our lines. Speed down the middle, and scoring on the wing. The only thing they lack is size and hard physical play on the top 2 lines. in 82 games your top 2 lines should be responsible for at least 120 goals. Bottom lines should be responsible for at least 40 goals and somewhere around an even plus minus. The defense, goalie, and heart of the forward lines should be responsible for wins. 

 

Andersson does not have speed, and Zetterberg is a much better center then flip is, so I would keep Z at center and flip on the wing. and those top two lines can easily produce 120+ goals

[Richdg]

Should be keeping Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson in the lineup. 

 

Franzen, Datsyuk, Nyquist

Zetterberg, Fillpula, Brunner

Tatar, Helm, Eaves

Tootoo, Andersson, Miller 

Abdelkader

 

That should be our lines. Speed down the middle, and scoring on the wing. The only thing they lack is size and hard physical play on the top 2 lines. in 82 games your top 2 lines should be responsible for at least 120 goals. Bottom lines should be responsible for at least 40 goals and somewhere around an even plus minus. The defense, goalie, and heart of the forward lines should be responsible for wins. 

No. Your top 2 lines should score 180+ goals. If they only get 120, you are going to be LUCKY to score 200 goals in a season. Less than 3 goals per game. that equals sub .500 record.

[evilzyme]

You guys are so butthurt it's uncanny, all you had to do is read the article to find the reasoning;

 

The Red Wings like the spark Tomas Tatar (four goals in 18 games) has provided and the dimension brought by Joakim Andersson (size, checking, penalty killing). They hesitate to put too many rookies in the lineup, especially those that lack size.

 

Holland also is hesitant to bring up Nyquist unless he plays on a top-two line. Coach Mike Babcock has used Justin Abdelkader on Pavel Datsyuk's line. Abdelkader isn't providing offense, but Babcock prefers to have a bigger body and better defensive player there, as opposed to Tatar.