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Red Wings close to re-signing Howard

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Happy to have a solid starting goalie, but 5m a season is a little rough. Would've liked to see it more closer to 4m but he certainly has stood on his head for us more than once. Gives us a fighting chance to win every night, is a workhorse and can take a load of games, and he's been improving every season.

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Yes to Howard at 5 Million, yes to re-signing Brunner. NO to Filppula at anything close to that number.

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I really dont want Howard resigned for anything more then 3 years. SImply clogs the line for Mrazek. I also think hes worth 5 million per season.

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I really dont want Howard resigned for anything more then 3 years. SImply clogs the line for Mrazek. I also think hes worth 5 million per season.

It doesn't clog the lines because Monster isn't going to be playing here forever. Monster can be let go after his contract and Mrazek would be ready to start backing up Howard full-time. Run that tandem for awhile, giving each other rest and fighting for the job and then allow Mrazek to take over the starting job down the road.

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i hope its 6 years and not 7 and when mrazek is ready it will force us to trade howard and at least we can get a good return back instead of always losing our players to free agency for nothing

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It doesn't clog the lines because Monster isn't going to be playing here forever. Monster can be let go after his contract and Mrazek would be ready to start backing up Howard full-time. Run that tandem for awhile, giving each other rest and fighting for the job and then allow Mrazek to take over the starting job down the road.

IMO you dont give a goalie 5 million over 6-7 years if your plan involves him losing his job down the road.

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IMO you dont give a goalie 5 million over 6-7 years if your plan involves him losing his job down the road.

you do if your goalie of the future isnt ready for fulltime for another 2-3 years and theres no other options for a goalie in free agency

in 2-3 years howard can be used as trade bait ....its a win win

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Where does this notion come from that teams would be lining up to trade for Howard. Most teams have a goalie plan they are content with for the next 3-4 years. Goalies are difficult to trade because of the wealth of goalie talent around the league. If you believe Mrazek would be ready in 2-3 years then sign Howard for 3-4 years. No reason for those extra 2-3 years at a decent sized cap hit.

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I don't as much mind the cap hit as I do the years. Think how Monster looked in goal last night has anything to do with getting Howie locked up sooner rather than later? If so, I think Jimmy owes Gus a Rolex or something as thanks.

Edit: After reading through the whole article, what concerns me the most is the piece about Flip supposedly wanting north of $5m a season now. Really? Really?

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Where does this notion come from that teams would be lining up to trade for Howard. Most teams have a goalie plan they are content with for the next 3-4 years. Goalies are difficult to trade because of the wealth of goalie talent around the league. If you believe Mrazek would be ready in 2-3 years then sign Howard for 3-4 years. No reason for those extra 2-3 years at a decent sized cap hit.

maybe because he knows he will get 5+ years in the market so we have no choice?? and theres always gonna be a team looking for a goalie the thing is what theyd be willing to give up to get one so if we just wanna get rid of his salary and take a 2nd round pick back lets say ... im sure it could be done

look around the league ... toronto needs a goalie , flyers always need a goalie(im sure brygs will be bought out by then) , islanders , devils have no future goalie , same as calgary

im sure in 3 years wed be able to find a taker

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Not sure I like this. When he's on he's great but he's off way too often to be paying that money and term.

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maybe because he knows he will get 5+ years in the market so we have no choice?? and theres always gonna be a team looking for a goalie the thing is what theyd be willing to give up to get one so if we just wanna get rid of his salary and take a 2nd round pick back lets say ... im sure it could be done

look around the league ... toronto needs a goalie , flyers always need a goalie(im sure brygs will be bought out by then) , islanders , devils have no future goalie , same as calgary

im sure in 3 years wed be able to find a taker

This also assumes there won't be a NMC or NTC in the contract as well. All those destinations assume they won't do something about it in three years. Oh well well have to wait and see the final details of the contract.

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Not sure I like this. When he's on he's great but he's off way too often to be paying that money and term.

What are you talking about? How is "off way too often"? He has been solid in all but 2-3 games excluding the first game

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Im ok for howie but the 5mil for fil is nuts with his production.

What's nuts is that he's never had a reliable backup at all & has been overworked for the past few years now. How many more years of that can Howie take before he starts to break down? Is it really 6 or 7?

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Not diggin' the amount of years. Was hoping for 4-5 instead of 6-7, but at least he's locked up.

Also, if Flip's really asking for that much money then I'm afraid Holland will let him go. I hope Nyquist steps up in his place and Jarnkrok impresses next camp.

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I really like Howard but was also hoping for $4-4.5 mill range especially when cap goes down next year.

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6 or 7 years is fine. Mrasek is what 20? 21? Gus is here 1 or 2 more years. The Mrasek as the backup playing 30ish games for 2 years, then he can push for the starting job. That is nearly 6 years time right there. keep in mind the first 2-3 years mrasek is up, he is cheap.

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I think north of 5 is a bit much for Flip based on his production, but at the same time worry about the team without him. I think he's undervalued on these boards.

I'm good with Howard though, aside from a few games thought he's been real good this season. And last season before he got injured? Awesome.

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I think north of 5 is a bit much for Flip based on his production, but at the same time worry about the team without him. I think he's undervalued on these boards.

I'm good with Howard though, aside from a few games thought he's been real good this season. And last season before he got injured? Awesome.

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