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#81 ogreslayer

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

i cant even read these posts lol, like are u kidding me

 

So you think there's a roster player or prospect in the organization now that would bring back more value in a deadline trade than Pavel would?  Please, enlighten me.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

I don't see a reason not to buy it. It fits with everything Datsyuk has always said.  We all knew he'd be leaving sooner rather than later.  We can argue if it's one more season or two, but the fact is, time is running out and we have no Datsyuk replacement in the system. 

Whether the article is totally factual or not, there is more than a grain of truth in it.  Because of that, the message cannot be totally brushed off.  I think with something like this, we all respond to it with some of our own identity and personality.  I.E., what would WE do if we were Pavel?

 

 I would die a little if he left because it would be hurtful on more than one level.  I would find it really, really difficult for me to not hate Babcock/Holland for not being more flexible with personnel.  Especially Babcock at this point.  That is ONE thing that can be changed right now.

 

I want to add something else while I'm here editing.  It isn't like CPO needs my support.  But he did explain very calmly and logically how their system works.  And some of your responses border on ignorance and arrogance and show vey little  historical perspective about Kukla's column.  Personally, they're one of the first I go to when I want what's even CLOSE to factual information.  You don't like what CPO says?  Fine.  Just show a little maturity and intelligence when you respond to him.  


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#83 DeGraa55

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:07 PM

And some idiot a still think we shouldnnt trade him and let him walk for free. He is right though. This team as it stands will be abused in the east.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:09 PM

Soory y'all... I didn't read the whole post so if someone else asked about this forgive me. With this teams up and down play and so many holes to fill and the fact that Datsyuk might be calling it quits soon anyway maybe now would be the time to trade him and get some high end picks or prospects in return to help with the futrue? I dont want to see this happen but it could be usefull.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:13 PM

Yesterday: "EDMONTON, Alberta -- Pavel Datsyuk joked that the zero-degree weather that greeted the Detroit Red Wings today in Edmonton "is like summer in Russia.""

 

http://www.freep.com/article/20130314/SPORTS05/130314055/nhl-realignment-detroit-red-wings 

 

The irony behind that quote saddens me :(, lol



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:32 PM

good pav talk going on the ticket right now. heres the link to listen online. no guarentee how much longer they will talk though.

 

http://betaplayer.ra.../971-the-ticket


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

I have a source at bell that says dats will re-tire at the end of the season. Going with less aggressive tred for spring.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

I have a source at bell that says dats will re-tire at the end of the season. Going with less aggressive tred for spring.


Edit for spelling and grammar


I have a source that says you're making crap up.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

Whether the article is totally factual or not, there is more than a grain of truth in it.  Because of that, the message cannot be totally brushed off.  I think with something like this, we all respond to it with some of our own identity and personality.  I.E., what would WE do if we were Pavel?

 

 I would die a little if he left because it would be hurtful on more than one level.  I would find it really, really difficult for me to not hate Babcock/Holland for not being more flexible with personnel.  Especially Babcock at this point.  That is ONE thing that can be changed right now.

 

I want to add something else while I'm here editing.  It isn't like CPO needs my support.  But he did explain very calmly and logically how their system works.  And some of your responses border on ignorance and arrogance and show vey little  historical perspective about Kukla's column.  Personally, they're one of the first I go to when I want what's even CLOSE to factual information.  You don't like what CPO says?  Fine.  Just show a little maturity and intelligence when you respond to him.  


I kind of wonder if Babcock is dog housing him a bit BECAUSE they know he's leaving. I highly doubt it, because it's basically sabotaging the team, but...

In terms of the red text, can we be "intelligent" and immature? I still feel like sarcasm has its place on the internet.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

I don't act like anything. Simply said what I believe is the true. I give you Babs has put Z and Datz on the same line but how long does that last?  Here's pretty much what has happen the last 3 seasons, first its one or two games, then 5-10mins of ice time, then powerplay. That's pretty much the role of if. Most of the time Bert and Mule played with Z. Or Bert plays with Helm. Our best line in the last few playoffs have been Bert / Z / Mule. So they left Datz with Flip and Happy / Cleary. And as for Homer... Last two years his ice time drop to pretty much just powerplay.  Also, Babs said Datz can't do it alone vs Nsh and we need another top 6 player. I'm sorry but I don't see how Happy is any better then Cleary. As for Flip I just don't think hes the kind of wing Datz needs. And rather you like it or not Datz does care who he plays with, he has ask for another Russian player to play with for the past 2 years. So what now, once Bertz back he'll get Clearly and Bertz, wooohoo what a upgrade.......or wait maybe we can count on SAMUELSSON.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

A buddy of mine in Edmonton just texted me that Datz had a piece of key lime pie for lunch.....does anyone know what that means?

IIRC, I read somewhere that if Dats eats pie as a pregame meal, he probably wants to be traded to Florida!!!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

Do we have important people posting in here now? Did I ever tell you guys about the time that I wrote for Hockey's Future...?

On topic, I feel like he's all but gone. As someone mentioned, when's the last time we heard a funny quip/quote from Dats? It feels like he's already got a foot out the door. Without signing Flip (who wants 5 mil???), we're going to have a big void at the C position.

Until they make Nyquist a centremen to make up the 3rd line next year with Tatar and Andersson?  I smell that coming for some reason.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:35 PM

Until they make Nyquist a centremen to make up the 3rd line next year with Tatar and Andersson?  I smell that coming for some reason.

 

The possibility of Nyquist at center popped into my head, but I'm not sure they'll go that route unless they really have to. He played some center in Maine, if I'm not mistaken.

Though, TBH, I'm not even sure Nyquist will be on the Wings next season. I see Cleary and Miller leave, and Tatar and Andersson taking their spots. I think the season after, with Bert and Sammy leaving, is when Nyquist will be on the team permanently. 



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

 
The possibility of Nyquist at center popped into my head, but I'm not sure they'll go that route unless they really have to. He played some center in Maine, if I'm not mistaken.

Though, TBH, I'm not even sure Nyquist will be on the Wings next season. I see Cleary and Miller leave, and Tatar and Andersson taking their spots. I think the season after, with Bert and Sammy leaving, is when Nyquist will be on the team permanently. 


He's got his shot rigt now. I have a feeling that if he doesn't sjow he can be NHL ready rifht now that he may be trade bait for a team who needs a playmaker

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:19 PM

I really hope this isn't true. 


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

It will be a sad day when Datsyuk is no longer with Detroit Red Wings.  :crybaby:



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:12 PM

I think its a definite possibility but I disagree with the reasoning suggested in the blog.

 

I highly doubt playing in the East has anything to do with his decision. If that were the case he'd probably wait until they actually played there before claiming its too physical for him.

 

I think if there is anything driving him to go back to Russia it would be his daughter. If that's the case and he just wants to be closer to his family I can't hold it against him and I wish him nothing but the best in Russia.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:20 PM


I kind of wonder if Babcock is dog housing him a bit BECAUSE they know he's leaving. I highly doubt it, because it's basically sabotaging the team, but...

In terms of the red text, can we be "intelligent" and immature? I still feel like sarcasm has its place on the internet.

I hope you're wrong about Babcock, but personally, I don't trust him all that much right now.  

 

As for the "intelligent and immature", Oh heck yeah, it's possible, far as I'm concerned. When it comes to people, "immature" is mostly considered a negative word (whether it should be or not).   Just sayin' both traits can be misused and be hurtful.  As for the sarcasm thing, I also agree.  That's one of the things I've always liked about IWO's stuff. But I think his stuff is thoughtful and creative.   Again, in my mind, it's when it gets personally derogatory and hurtful for no reason.  


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:35 PM

And some idiot a still think we shouldnnt trade him and let him walk for free. He is right though. This team as it stands will be abused in the east.


Guess I'm an idiot.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

Guess I'm an idiot.

Me too.  Are we related?

 

I don't care what we could get for him.  He's given us enough years, thrills, goals, and fun sound bites that the man deserves to go out as he pleases. 

 

Even if he's cool with a trade, I don't want another team to have his talent against us.

 

Not to mention that I don't want another team getting him and then we lose to them in the first round, which would be our luck.







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