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#1 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

2 on 2 or 3 on 2, they do the same thing everytime: skate forward and try and pass through defensemen's sticks.

 

Someone mentioned it before: this team NEVER utilizes the middle of the ice.

  • shots from bad angles
  • shots from the point

 

Watch the Penguins, Blackhawks, Flyers, etc. They gain the zone, cut to the middle, and evaluate their options. They use against the grain passing where they flip the flow of the play on the rush.

 

And for how much of a genius Pav is, he cannot shoot to save his life. For every snipe he has, he has about 100 shots that go wide or go off a guy's leg.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:35 PM

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:44 PM

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If there is a bad angle on the ice, he'll find it!

 

Remember that two on 1 he was in tonight? Here's what a good hockey player will do.

 



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:50 PM

Remember that two on 1 he was in tonight? Here's what a good hockey player will do.

 

*youtube vid*

 

Thats EXACTLY what I was thinking. Cleary went full speed into the corner instead of pulling up and giving himself a good shooting angle...


Edited by Ytsejam, 15 March 2013 - 10:52 PM.


#5 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:53 PM

Thats EXACTLY what I was thinking when cleary went full speed into the corner instead of pulling up...

 

Taylor Hall just pulled that move off. Val Filppula needs to take notes as he very often tries that move with little to no success.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:06 PM

I've been saying this since last year.  Shooting everything from the side boards and being afraid of the slot is crap.


This offseason will determine whether Ken Holland should still be employed with the Wings organization.

 

Please put Smith on the Power Play!


#7 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

And for how much of a genius Pav is, he cannot shoot to save his life. For every snipe he has, he has about 100 shots that go wide or go off a guy's leg.

 

BAM! Made me look like an idiot tonight. But my point is still valid I think...



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:24 PM

This thread screams CLEARY.

 

- Cleary shoots in terrible positions

- Filppula twirls back after entering the zone EVERY time - never goes to the net.

- Miller always goes to the corner and gets squeezed against the boards and the puck stollen

- Brunner shoots with no traffic all the time

- Franzen - flips the puck into goalie's glove upon entering the zone

- Kronwall tries to drag the puck along the blueline and shoot - usually hits someone

 

- Z and Dats are usually pretty good at being unique but are limited by what teammates offer them positionally 



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:29 PM

Part of it’s coaching.

 

In OT Kindl was in tight and had Datsyuk coming, wide open. Rather than attempt a pass to Pavel, Kindl threw a low % shot at Dubnyk’s feet. He was sacred to be creative because that means taking a chance and possibly turning the puck over, which would have been bad news because he would have been caught deep. 

 

That’s coaching. Babcock has the young guys terrified. 


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:40 PM

T A T A R.

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#11 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:20 AM

Just start shooting the puck at the boards. Something is bound to go in.



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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:00 AM

This thread screams CLEARY.

 

- Cleary shoots in terrible positions

- Filppula twirls back after entering the zone EVERY time - never goes to the net.

- Miller always goes to the corner and gets squeezed against the boards and the puck stollen

- Brunner shoots with no traffic all the time

- Franzen - flips the puck into goalie's glove upon entering the zone

- Kronwall tries to drag the puck along the blueline and shoot - usually hits someone

 

- Z and Dats are usually pretty good at being unique but are limited by what teammates offer them positionally 

 

I honestly feel like you nailed this perfectly.

 

Especially on Filppula and Franzen.



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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:42 AM

Boy did I get a kick out it when I saw 5 of our players thinking they can carry the puck up the middle and deke out 4 defenders.. (Nyquist, Miller, Smith, Franzen, Flippula)  :no2:

 

Bonus: Brunner enjoys shooting the puck wherever he chooses.... patience! 


Edited by HIFI_canadian, 16 March 2013 - 02:44 AM.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:45 AM

Datsyuk has an amazing shot usually. He's not playing very well and has horrible line mates (better tonight though). I would argue he has the best shot on the team. Franzen usually does, but is extremely streeky.



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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:49 AM

- Cleary shoots in terrible positions

- Filppula twirls back after entering the zone EVERY time - never goes to the net.

- Miller always goes to the corner and gets squeezed against the boards and the puck stollen

- Brunner shoots with no traffic all the time

- Franzen - flips the puck into goalie's glove upon entering the zone

- Kronwall tries to drag the puck along the blueline and shoot - usually hits someone

 

Drives me mad! :nono:


"If I can be totally honest, it's not a lot of guys you get impressed by. Actually, it's no one else but him. From the bench, to see what move he makes -- you're like, 'I wish I could do that.' Sometimes you sit on the bench and just think, 'wow,' and you look over to the other bench and they sit there and shake their heads, too. He has great, great skills. I'm probably not going to play with another player who has the kind of skills he has." Mikael Samuelsson on Pavel Datsyuk

#16 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:38 AM

Datsyuk has an amazing shot usually. He's not playing very well and has horrible line mates (better tonight though). I would argue he has the best shot on the team. Franzen usually does, but is extremely streeky.

I disagree.

 

 Although he does have the ability to snipe, he shoots an awful lot of shots into guy's legs and sticks. And his one-timers? :bad:



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Posted 16 March 2013 - 01:01 PM

Datsyuk has a pretty good wrister, he just takes a lot of low percentage shots (into legs, off sticks into the mesh).

I think the teams lack of offensive creativity is for a big part on the coaches. Our planned 'plays' are easily read a mile away by any team's defenders. If I see kronwall switch positions at the blue line for a one timer pass from the other point man just to either: a) have it blocked or b) have the pass intercepted, one more time, I will throw a temper tantrum.

Oh and our constantly changing lines don't help much either. I don't think chemistry is a HUGE deal, but if you play for a long time with someone eventually a play only you guys will do together will be born.

Edited by Wheelchairsuperhero, 16 March 2013 - 01:04 PM.


#18 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

This seems to still be relevant.

 

Nothing....just nothing.

 

Not one player in this lineup can be counted on to score when we REALLY need one.

 

I can count on Hank or Pav to assist on the goal, but no one to score it.



#19 canadian wings fan

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:57 PM

Franzen - flips the puck into goalie's glove upon entering the zone

 

so ******** infuriating



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:02 AM

This seems to still be relevant.

 

Nothing....just nothing.

 

Not one player in this lineup can be counted on to score when we REALLY need one.

 

I can count on Hank or Pav to assist on the goal, but no one to score it.

 

It will continue to be relevant until Holland gets back to doing his job and building a winning roster. Not a roster of two stars and spare parts. 







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