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[GoWings1905]

Probably for the best if Nyquist is going to play on the third line or get scratched anyways.

 

Plus if this means Helm on Wednesday, then hell yes.

[Spongewingredpants]

Nyquist must really start getting pissed at this. By the time he is a regular, he will be too old to qualify for the Calder

[Playmaker]

I like Helm as much as the next person, but it isn't like we're getting Pavel Dastyuk back in the lineup or Lidstrom decided to unretire.  He's good at his role, which is a bottom six forward, but acting like he's the key to entire season seems a bit overblown to me.  If he is, not saying much about our top 6.

[Crymson]

 

Haha. Well done! I never thought of using that video.

how many shifts did Nyquist have with Datsyuk? less than 10

 

One period. IMO a summer of hard training will help Tatar and Nyquist. They both have all of the skills, but a little more strength on the puck and in the corners would help them immensely.

 

Nyquist dearly needs to add some muscle mass to his frame before he can play against top opposition. He's just too slight at the moment.

Let's not get carried away now. Yes getting Helm back is nice, but he is not physical. he is fast. Very fast and a good checker. But he isn't much of a scorer nor is he physical. Helm is all about the speed.

 

Is this some kind of joke, or have you just not seen Helm play?

He's been a physical player ever since he first hit NHL ice in 2008.

[kylee]

I like Helm as much as the next person, but it isn't like we're getting Pavel Dastyuk back in the lineup or Lidstrom decided to unretire.  He's good at his role, which is a bottom six forward, but acting like he's the key to entire season seems a bit overblown to me.  If he is, not saying much about our top 6.

 

I agree but HOPEFULLY this will also mean we have a stronger bottom 2 lines and just as importantly: our penalty kill.

[T.Low]

Let's not get carried away now. Yes getting Helm back is nice, but he is not physical. he is fast. Very fast and a good checker. But he isn't much of a scorer nor is he physical. Helm is all about the speed.

 

 

Ask Jovonoski if Helm is physical.

 

 

Edited by T.Low, 18 March 2013 - 11:27 AM.

[Crymson]

Ask Jovonoski if Helm is physical.

 

 

 

In before "omg that was almost two years ago!"

[MDCard]

Helm has some back troubles...i would expect him to be a bit less physical for the forseeable future.

[Crymson]

Nyquist must really start getting pissed at this. By the time he is a regular, he will be too old to qualify for the Calder

 

Somehow I doubt that winning the Calder is overriding thought in every prospect's mind.

 

That said, Nyquist will be out of AHL eligibility next season at age 24, and I doubt the best prospect in the system will be riding pine. So you're absolutely wrong.

[Euro_Twins]

I like Helm as much as the next person, but it isn't like we're getting Pavel Dastyuk back in the lineup or Lidstrom decided to unretire.  He's good at his role, which is a bottom six forward, but acting like he's the key to entire season seems a bit overblown to me.  If he is, not saying much about our top 6.

 

You don't realize what helm TRULY brings to this team, aside from being the best 3rd line center in the nhl, he brings a lot of energy and heart every shift, every game. Every line literally plays better when he is in the lineup, he just causes everyone else to play better. Ever noticed how deflated we became against trashville when Helm got injured in the playoffs in his first game back, ya I believe that we lost the series as soon as Helm fell on that skate.

[Z Winged Dangler]

I like Helm as much as the next person, but it isn't like we're getting Pavel Dastyuk back in the lineup or Lidstrom decided to unretire.  He's good at his role, which is a bottom six forward, but acting like he's the key to entire season seems a bit overblown to me.  If he is, not saying much about our top 6.

 Momentum is a hard thing to get if you don't work for it.

[Richdg]

Haha. Well done! I never thought of using that video.

 

 

Nyquist dearly needs to add some muscle mass to his frame before he can play against top opposition. He's just too slight at the moment.

 

Is this some kind of joke, or have you just not seen Helm play?

He's been a physical player ever since he first hit NHL ice in 2008.

Helm is a very good hockey player? What is so hard for you to understand? But he is not physical. he does something that is normal in hockey-he checks. That doesn't mean he is physical. granted in today's game where it has become the No hitting League, that is rare and thus surprising to so many. Vald was physical. Mccarty was physical. Shanahan was physical. probert was physical. helm is draper 2.0. Great in that role.

The biggest thign with helm is, i hope and pray he is 100% healthy. a bad back is death to many a hockey player over the years.

[nyqvististhefuture]

im expecting nyquist to be traded at some point , the way hes been treated they clearly dont want him here and dont invision him as a future wing  , i just hope its in the off season because i dont want to get rid of our first round pick this year in a package deal

[Nev]

In before "omg that was almost two years ago!"

 

More like "wow, can't believe Ruslan is gone"

 

I like Helm as much as the next person, but it isn't like we're getting Pavel Dastyuk back in the lineup or Lidstrom decided to unretire.  He's good at his role, which is a bottom six forward, but acting like he's the key to entire season seems a bit overblown to me.  If he is, not saying much about our top 6.

 

Helm is the absolute key to our bottom 6, and our 3rd most important forward.  The one game he played this season our whole line-up looked so much more balanced.  He's massive on our PK, means we don't have to play Abdelkader as the 3rd line centre (although the emergence of Andersson has saved us from that, even if it means escaped from goblins to be caught by wolves playing him on Pavs wing).

[martinezsvsu]

big boost to our PK also

[ogreslayer]

Kind of weird that we send down Tatar and Nyquist but leave up Andersson?  Who would've guessed Andersson would be the one to stay up the longest?

Bigger body but also a center which gives Babs more flexibility with the lineup.  Not much of a surprise given that's how Emmerton stuck with the lineup last season i.e. being a center.

[DSM]

im expecting nyquist to be traded at some point , the way hes been treated they clearly dont want him here and dont invision him as a future wing  , i just hope its in the off season because i dont want to get rid of our first round pick this year in a package deal

 

Really...

Bigger body but also a center which gives Babs more flexibility with the lineup.  Not much of a surprise given that's how Emmerton stuck with the lineup last season i.e. being a center.

 

I agree. I think being a center, and being able to kill penalties has made him a little more valuable.

[LeftWinger]

Helm is in, eh? That would be great! Our questions are being answered.  What will happen to the kids when we are healthy...Tatar, gone. Nyquist, gone.  As soon as Sammy and or Bertuzzi gets back, Andersson...gone...Colaiacovo back, Lashoff....gone...

[LeftWinger]

im expecting nyquist to be traded at some point , the way hes been treated they clearly dont want him here and dont invision him as a future wing  , i just hope its in the off season because i dont want to get rid of our first round pick this year in a package deal

 

after the season is over he will be traded to Anaheim...with Filppula and our 1st round pick for Perry and their 1st round pick.

 

to ANA:  Filppula, Nyquist, 2013 1st rd pick

 

to DET:  Perry, 2013 1st rd pick

 

Yes, this is just a fantasy trade I made up, but it's doable and viable and makes sense for both!

 

Then I wake up and see that Holland re-signed Val to a $6M deal....ugh...

 

(this is all purely fantasy, and only in my head. Do not read any further than that!)

 

...although I do believe Nyquist will be traded, just not sure when or to who...is he a center?

[dirtydangles]

Nyquist isn't strong enough yet. I love the guy but he isn't quite there yet physically. Still getting beat in the corners and playing off balance sometimes.