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[frankgrimes]

Can't wait for him to bulk up and stay with the big club, him and Smith are by far the best prospects the Wings have.

[brett]

why would they send a winger down for a center to come back?

 

sounds like sammy coming back

[VM1138]

That's why I mentioned Andersson. I just expected that if Helm was coming back, we would send down our spare center.

That's why I mentioned Andersson. I just expected that if Helm was coming back, we would send down our spare center.

[DeGraa55]

That's why I mentioned Andersson. I just expected that if Helm was coming back, we would send down our spare center.That's why I mentioned Andersson. I just expected that if Helm was coming back, we would send down our spare center.

Anderson has decent size though.

[Crymson]

Emmerton will likely be scratched and Andersson will move down to the 4th line.

 

Emmerton has had a decent season, but ultimately he brings less to the table than any other forward on the roster.

[WorkingOvertime]

Anderson has decent size though.

He does have size, but he doesn't use it to be physical. IMO he needs to pick up his hitting to be a good fit for the fourth line when Helm returns. He is a decent forechecker but he lacks the tenacity to wear down other teams' D. It's less of a worry in the regular season, but in the playoffs each opportunity for a fourth liner to make a hit needs be to taken.

[Barrie]

One period. IMO a summer of hard training will help Tatar and Nyquist. They both have all of the skills, but a little more strength on the puck and in the corners would help them immensely.

 

I agree, neither are ready for the NHL yet.

[jthiel86]

So the crappy part about this whole thread, Helm had a set-back today in practice...  Babcock was NOT happy.

[Nev]

I agree with those who think Andersson will take the 4th line centre spot.  He's clearly established himself as a Babcock favourite, and its been a problem position for a while. 

[Richdg]

is time running out with Nyquist? he turns 24 this year, has played at GR for a couple of years now, several more in college, and he can't take/keep a job with the big club. Clearly babs wants bigger players playing. Which is why Cleary keeps getting time, Andersson is staying, Abby on a top line, and tatar/Nyquist are wearing out their cars driving back and forth between GR and detroit.

[ogreslayer]

is time running out with Nyquist? he turns 24 this year, has played at GR for a couple of years now, several more in college, and he can't take/keep a job with the big club. Clearly babs wants bigger players playing. Which is why Cleary keeps getting time, Andersson is staying, Abby on a top line, and tatar/Nyquist are wearing out their cars driving back and forth between GR and detroit.

 

"Several more in college"?  I think you need a reminder of what several actually means.  This is only his 2nd full season of pro hockey & all he has to show for it is:

 

• A 2 time selection to the AHL all-star game
• Tied Tatar for the points lead on the team in his first season with 20 less games played
• Lead the Grifs AND the AHL in scoring in his 2nd season
• Lead the Grifs in points per game both years
• Lead the team in PPGs both seasons

Just a sampling, but no, not running out of time.  Give him another off season of working out to continue to bulk up plus a full training camp & exhibition season and he'll be on the team full time starting next season.  If not for the lockout, he probably would have been a full-timer this season.

[achildr1]

"Several more in college"?  I think you need a reminder of what several actually means.  This is only his 2nd full season of pro hockey & all he has to show for it is:

 

• A 2 time selection to the AHL all-star game
• Tied Tatar for the points lead on the team in his first season with 20 less games played
• Lead the Grifs AND the AHL in scoring in his 2nd season
• Lead the Grifs in points per game both years
• Lead the team in PPGs both seasons

Just a sampling, but no, not running out of time.  Give him another off season of working out to continue to bulk up plus a full training camp & exhibition season and he'll be on the team full time starting next season.  If not for the lockout, he probably would have been a full-timer this season.

 

Fact: ogreslayer likes facts. You know, the kind of thing thats hard to argue with.

 

I am astounded by all the Nyquist hate i've been hearing lately. This kid leads the AHL in scoring in his second pro year. He's extremely talented. If anything this kid is held back because of Babcock's ever strange player fascinations...seeing as he isn't one of them. To whoever said that Tatar and Nyquist arent NHL ready...lets trade them to another team and see if they play in the NHL. My money is that they would both be playing full time in the NHL and with the way theyve played this year, they should be playing here too. They arent because we have too many forwards, too many over the hill veterans that have job security. If it actually went by who deserves the spots, Andersson, Tatar, and Nyquist would all be starting and any of Cleary, Samuelsson, Eaves, or Emmerton would no longer be on this team.

[Nev]

I am astounded by all the Nyquist hate i've been hearing lately. This kid leads the AHL in scoring in his second pro year. He's extremely talented.

 

I don't think its hate, I just think its concern that he isn't going to be able to translate his undoubted talent into an effective NHL game.  His skill level is unquestioned, but all the tricks and dipsy-doodles that he could get away with in college and the AHL don't work against NHL level goalies and defencemen - unless your name starts with "Pav" and ends in "yuk".

 

Hopefully his taste of the NHL this season and last will make him realise what he needs to do on and off the ice to make it happen in the big league.

[DSM]

Fact: ogreslayer likes facts. You know, the kind of thing thats hard to argue with.

 

I am astounded by all the Nyquist hate i've been hearing lately. This kid leads the AHL in scoring in his second pro year. He's extremely talented. If anything this kid is held back because of Babcock's ever strange player fascinations...seeing as he isn't one of them. To whoever said that Tatar and Nyquist arent NHL ready...lets trade them to another team and see if they play in the NHL. My money is that they would both be playing full time in the NHL and with the way theyve played this year, they should be playing here too. They arent because we have too many forwards, too many over the hill veterans that have job security. If it actually went by who deserves the spots, Andersson, Tatar, and Nyquist would all be starting and any of Cleary, Samuelsson, Eaves, or Emmerton would no longer be on this team.

 

What have Eaves and Emmerton done to deserve losing their spots?

I don't think its hate, I just think its concern that he isn't going to be able to translate his undoubted talent into an effective NHL game.  His skill level is unquestioned, but all the tricks and dipsy-doodles that he could get away with in college and the AHL don't work against NHL level goalies and defencemen - unless your name starts with "Pav" and ends in "yuk".

 

Hopefully his taste of the NHL this season and last will make him realise what he needs to do on and off the ice to make it happen in the big league.

 

I agree with this. If he can add a little more bulk and use his speed to develop more of a 2-way game, he could be a real versatile player for this team.

[beachwing]

Send Nyquist to Florida this summer and I will get him on the beach and in the Gulf and put 10 lbs of muscle on him without sacrificing any speed or skill..... Give him to me Kenny....Get it done Kenny.

[kipwinger]

Trade him now and get something good for him.  All his nifty puck handling hasn't done s*** at the NHL level and it's only going to become more difficult once we move east. 

[Richdg]

Again, AHL points mean nothing. Now if he was putting up 2 points per game maybe that would be different. he is small, not real fast, and looks like a 40 point per season guy in the NHL. Those guys are fairly easy to find.

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

I'm thinking Nyquist's time is next year. However I said that last year.

 

So dunno.

[IllinoisRedWingsFan]

Helm is in, eh? That would be great! Our questions are being answered.  What will happen to the kids when we are healthy...Tatar, gone. Nyquist, gone.  As soon as Sammy and or Bertuzzi gets back, Andersson...gone...Colaiacovo back, Lashoff....gone...

 

I don't expect either (Sammy or Bert) to be back to be honest.  If they did and I ran the show I'd just waive Dan Cleary.

[jeff48109]

recalled tonight, to replace Eaves