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#41 LeftWinger

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:54 PM

Uh, nevermind....I just looked up Gaborik's salary for this and next year....$7.5M....no thanks...too much money for next year...if he were a UFA after this year, then no prob. 

 

 

I would still LOVE to pry Bobby Ryan out of Anaheim, but then I wake up..... :lol:

 

 

Rumor has Colorado maybe moving Stastny....he is a center, but I think he would fit nicely with Dats.... ahhh, dream on, dream until you dreams come true....


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:48 PM

Which teams are even going to make trades? Calgary and Florida? The only deadline splash will be getting Iginla. With 28 teams being buyers, the market for Iginla will be ridiculous.


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:50 PM

Let's look at the back end first:

 

Ericsson is big, better at defending now, and even scores every once in a while.  needs to shoot more.

Kindl is rounding into a REAL NHL defenseman this year.

Smith's effective first year, since he's only really played spots before

White: Useless.  Trade him or Amnesty him

Coca-cola: Injured.  Often.  Barely played this year.  If he turns out to suck, trade or waive.

Lashoff:  Who saw this coming?  Rookie (half) year, and looks pretty good.

Kronwall:  I wish he'd hit more.  But we have him locked up untill 2019.

Huskins: Worked good as a shutdown D-man this year when Covo went down.  Could be a trade piece to someone looking to shore up their 2nd/3rd pairing (and Pittsburgh's defense is as porous as a doylie)

Quincey:  Needs to get angry, as it only seems that he scores/defends/does well when he's hitting/charging/pushing.  Look on his LA days for evidence of that.

Forwards that aren't Z, Pasha, Helm, or Brunner:

 

Cleary:  UFA after this year, and no one wants him.

Sammy:  Injured.  Again.  Logo Hunter and old.  Waive, trade to a cap-floor team, or Amnesty.

Andersson: Young, played capably, stayed up with the big club.  could be an involved prospect

Same goes for Nyquist, Tatar, Emmerton.

Tootoo: WE NEED GRIT.  DO NOT TRADE OUR GRIT (unless you get someone more capable with scoring as well as with the fists)

Miller: 3rd liner, who would take him?

Eaves:  Almost as bad with his luck as DiPietro, but he still tries.  Who would take him?

Bert:  I think this injury will end his career.  Don't seem to hear a lot about progress with him.

Flip:  Only because he's FA at year end.  Could make a good rental and we get a pick.

Franziska (He will EARN back Mule Status when I see it): Who would eat that contract for that long for a power forward that doesn't exactly instill "power"?  Nevermind, I know who.  Vancouver.

Abby: Gritty.  Homer esque.  don't know what his trade value would be.


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:43 PM

Let's look at the back end first:

 

Ericsson is big, better at defending now, and even scores every once in a while.  needs to shoot more.

Kindl is rounding into a REAL NHL defenseman this year.

Smith's effective first year, since he's only really played spots before

White: Useless.  Trade him or Amnesty him

Coca-cola: Injured.  Often.  Barely played this year.  If he turns out to suck, trade or waive.

Lashoff:  Who saw this coming?  Rookie (half) year, and looks pretty good.

Kronwall:  I wish he'd hit more.  But we have him locked up untill 2019.

Huskins: Worked good as a shutdown D-man this year when Covo went down.  Could be a trade piece to someone looking to shore up their 2nd/3rd pairing (and Pittsburgh's defense is as porous as a doylie)

Quincey:  Needs to get angry, as it only seems that he scores/defends/does well when he's hitting/charging/pushing.  Look on his LA days for evidence of that.

Forwards that aren't Z, Pasha, Helm, or Brunner:

 

Cleary:  UFA after this year, and no one wants him.

Sammy:  Injured.  Again.  Logo Hunter and old.  Waive, trade to a cap-floor team, or Amnesty.

Andersson: Young, played capably, stayed up with the big club.  could be an involved prospect

Same goes for Nyquist, Tatar, Emmerton.

Tootoo: WE NEED GRIT.  DO NOT TRADE OUR GRIT (unless you get someone more capable with scoring as well as with the fists)

Miller: 3rd liner, who would take him?

Eaves:  Almost as bad with his luck as DiPietro, but he still tries.  Who would take him?

Bert:  I think this injury will end his career.  Don't seem to hear a lot about progress with him.

Flip:  Only because he's FA at year end.  Could make a good rental and we get a pick.

Franziska (He will EARN back Mule Status when I see it): Who would eat that contract for that long for a power forward that doesn't exactly instill "power"?  Nevermind, I know who.  Vancouver.

Abby: Gritty.  Homer esque.  don't know what his trade value would be.

 

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:03 PM

lol it actually sounds like Holland is going to be trading prospects and picks for high level talent, just hopefully not our 2013 first round pick

If he trades our 1st round pick and we lose out on a chance to get Pulock, i'll lose my s***.



Uh, nevermind....I just looked up Gaborik's salary for this and next year....$7.5M....no thanks...too much money for next year...if he were a UFA after this year, then no prob. 

 

 

I would still LOVE to pry Bobby Ryan out of Anaheim, but then I wake up..... :lol:

 

 

Rumor has Colorado maybe moving Stastny....he is a center, but I think he would fit nicely with Dats.... ahhh, dream on, dream until you dreams come true....

I'd take 1 year at 7.5 for Gaborik.  Him on a line with Dats and Abdelkader is a lot better than Franzen.  Hell, I'd give the Rangers Franzen and Filppula for Gaborik.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:37 PM

However, the Wings wouldn't be bidding against 28 teams. Iginla has a short list of allowable destinations - under 6, I think.

Which teams are even going to make trades? Calgary and Florida? The only deadline splash will be getting Iginla. With 28 teams being buyers, the market for Iginla will be ridiculous.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:47 PM

If he trades our 1st round pick and we lose out on a chance to get Pulock, i'll lose my s***.



I'd take 1 year at 7.5 for Gaborik.  Him on a line with Dats and Abdelkader is a lot better than Franzen.  Hell, I'd give the Rangers Franzen and Filppula for Gaborik.

That is one of the worst ideas I've seen here in a while, and I've seen some pretty terrible ones.  Franzen AND Filppula for a player who has only one year left after this on his contract (a grossly overpaid contract at that), who is made of glass AND who is underproducing on a point-per-game basis compared to one of the players you want to trade to acquire him?  Right.

 

Ignoring all of that, then you still have the depth issue.  I mean, when Gaborik is injured, that would leave us with what exactly?



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

Let's look at the back end first:

 

Ericsson is big, better at defending now, and even scores every once in a while.  needs to shoot more.

Kindl is rounding into a REAL NHL defenseman this year.

Smith's effective first year, since he's only really played spots before

White: Useless.  Trade him or Amnesty him

Coca-cola: Injured.  Often.  Barely played this year.  If he turns out to suck, trade or waive.

Lashoff:  Who saw this coming?  Rookie (half) year, and looks pretty good.

Kronwall:  I wish he'd hit more.  But we have him locked up untill 2019.

Huskins: Worked good as a shutdown D-man this year when Covo went down.  Could be a trade piece to someone looking to shore up their 2nd/3rd pairing (and Pittsburgh's defense is as porous as a doylie)

Quincey:  Needs to get angry, as it only seems that he scores/defends/does well when he's hitting/charging/pushing.  Look on his LA days for evidence of that.

Forwards that aren't Z, Pasha, Helm, or Brunner:

 

Cleary:  UFA after this year, and no one wants him.

Sammy:  Injured.  Again.  Logo Hunter and old.  Waive, trade to a cap-floor team, or Amnesty.

Andersson: Young, played capably, stayed up with the big club.  could be an involved prospect

Same goes for Nyquist, Tatar, Emmerton.

Tootoo: WE NEED GRIT.  DO NOT TRADE OUR GRIT (unless you get someone more capable with scoring as well as with the fists)

Miller: 3rd liner, who would take him?

Eaves:  Almost as bad with his luck as DiPietro, but he still tries.  Who would take him?

Bert:  I think this injury will end his career.  Don't seem to hear a lot about progress with him.

Flip:  Only because he's FA at year end.  Could make a good rental and we get a pick.

Franziska (He will EARN back Mule Status when I see it): Who would eat that contract for that long for a power forward that doesn't exactly instill "power"?  Nevermind, I know who.  Vancouver.

Abby: Gritty.  Homer esque.  don't know what his trade value would be.

 

No need to use amnesty on white, his contract is up at seasons end



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:55 AM

That is one of the worst ideas I've seen here in a while, and I've seen some pretty terrible ones.  Franzen AND Filppula for a player who has only one year left after this on his contract (a grossly overpaid contract at that), who is made of glass AND who is underproducing on a point-per-game basis compared to one of the players you want to trade to acquire him?  Right.

 

Ignoring all of that, then you still have the depth issue.  I mean, when Gaborik is injured, that would leave us with what exactly?

 Tatar could come back up any time.  Flip may be gone next season anyways, and really it would be contingent on Gaborik re-signing with the Wings and at a lower salary.  Helm should also be back soon and we would also not have to have Tootoo as a healthy scratch every 2 games like we currently do.  Franzen is lazy.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

According to Sir Ansarr Khaannnn Ken Holland will be making some sort of splash at the deadline as long as we are in full stride, winning games and in serious playoff contention.

 

So far so good. 


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:17 PM

That is one of the worst ideas I've seen here in a while, and I've seen some pretty terrible ones.  Franzen AND Filppula for a player who has only one year left after this on his contract (a grossly overpaid contract at that), who is made of glass AND who is underproducing on a point-per-game basis compared to one of the players you want to trade to acquire him?  Right.

 

Ignoring all of that, then you still have the depth issue.  I mean, when Gaborik is injured, that would leave us with what exactly?

 

I understand that was an overpayment giving up Flip and Franzen for him, but your acting like Gaborik is garbage. All players get injured, however the last 3 years he has scored over 40 goals twice, the other year he missed games because of an injury and still scored 25+ goals. People wanted Perry at 8.7 million, but don't want Gabby at 7.5 million ? Perry has played with Getzlaf his entire career and posted 1 season of 35+ goals. Gaborik's best center until last year he played with was Ryan Callahan and he's scored 40+ goals 4 times. He's almost a career PPG player. Gaborik with Datsyuk would be unbelievable and I bet he would score 50.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

I understand that was an overpayment giving up Flip and Franzen for him, but your acting like Gaborik is garbage. All players get injured, however the last 3 years he has scored over 40 goals twice, the other year he missed games because of an injury and still scored 25+ goals. People wanted Perry at 8.7 million, but don't want Gabby at 7.5 million ? Perry has played with Getzlaf his entire career and posted 1 season of 35+ goals. Gaborik's best center until last year he played with was Ryan Callahan and he's scored 40+ goals 4 times. He's almost a career PPG player. Gaborik with Datsyuk would be unbelievable and I bet he would score 50.

50 goals in our system? I would be happy with 30-35


Edited by Hey man nice shot!, 27 March 2013 - 05:39 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:02 PM

50 goals in our system? I would be happy with 30-35

 

Gabby is like Hossa in terms of offense, nowhere near him on defense though. But Gabby is one of the fastest skaters in the NHL, and is only 31 and with him playing with one of the best players in the NHL, I wouldn't look past him getting 50.


Edited by darkmanx, 27 March 2013 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

I understand that was an overpayment giving up Flip and Franzen for him, but your acting like Gaborik is garbage. All players get injured, however the last 3 years he has scored over 40 goals twice, the other year he missed games because of an injury and still scored 25+ goals. People wanted Perry at 8.7 million, but don't want Gabby at 7.5 million ? Perry has played with Getzlaf his entire career and posted 1 season of 35+ goals. Gaborik's best center until last year he played with was Ryan Callahan and he's scored 40+ goals 4 times. He's almost a career PPG player. Gaborik with Datsyuk would be unbelievable and I bet he would score 50.

It would be a lot like Dats with Hossa who is the last Wings player to score 40.  Gaborik isn't nearly as good defensively as Hossa, but offensively he may be even more gifted.  And he's fast as all hell.



Gabby is like Hossa in terms of offense, nowhere near him on defense though. But Gabby is one of the fastest skaters in the NHL, and is only 31 and with him playing with one of the best players in the NHL, I wouldn't look past him getting 50.

I've had this thread open for a while apparently....we kinda posted the same type deal.  Been sidetracked by Resident Evil 6.  I would love to have him here either way.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

Boyle?

Leopold?

Regehr?

Sarich?

Streit?

Visnovsky?

Whitney?

(Bouwmeester?)

(Yandle?)

 

 

(Girardi?)


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:38 PM

Gaborik or Yandle please!


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:18 AM

Gaborik or Yandle please!

 

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:45 AM

Boyle?

Leopold?

Regehr?

Sarich?

Streit?

Visnovsky?

Whitney?

(Bouwmeester?)

(Yandle?)

 

 

(Girardi?)

 Doubt we would be able to get Yandle or Girardi.  I'd try to get Visnovsky if they'd take White or Quincey in a trade.  Other than him, not much interest in the list.  I know he's 35+, but he would be one of those guys that gets the puck up to the forwards quick and that's a main complaint about our current D.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:27 AM

Buffalo has been rumored on and off to be willing to part with some players.  Surely someone on that team could help the Wings out.



That is one of the worst ideas I've seen here in a while, and I've seen some pretty terrible ones.  Franzen AND Filppula for a player who has only one year left after this on his contract (a grossly overpaid contract at that), who is made of glass AND who is underproducing on a point-per-game basis compared to one of the players you want to trade to acquire him?  Right.

 

Ignoring all of that, then you still have the depth issue.  I mean, when Gaborik is injured, that would leave us with what exactly?

 

Flip is a goner anyway.  Any trade involving Filppula, even for a rental, is better than we'll get this summer when he leaves us with nothing.  I don't believe we should trade Franzen.  Lazy or not, he still scores and a trade for another forward would just be a wash most likely.

 

Back to Gaborik though, 7.5 or not, I'd take him and he'd be awesome here.  Probably not 50 goals in our system, but he could pot 40 easily.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:09 PM

Buffalo has been rumored on and off to be willing to part with some players.  Surely someone on that team could help the Wings out.



 

Flip is a goner anyway.  Any trade involving Filppula, even for a rental, is better than we'll get this summer when he leaves us with nothing.  I don't believe we should trade Franzen.  Lazy or not, he still scores and a trade for another forward would just be a wash most likely.

 

Back to Gaborik though, 7.5 or not, I'd take him and he'd be awesome here.  Probably not 50 goals in our system, but he could pot 40 easily.

 If Buffalo is willing to trade, it's really dependant on who.  Pominville would be my choice.  I'd rather package Flip with someone else to the Rangers for Gaborik, poop myself cause we got him, and then trade for him in GM mode in NHL 13 :yahoo: (the exact reverse of how we usually do it here) and be quite happy, but I'd like for the Rangers to actually shed light on Gaborik's availability before I get all giddy about him. Even though I kinda am already...


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