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Iginla may/may not have added Detroit to his trade list

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Or we keep a cheap good player for a playoff run and don't waste one of the last years of datsyuk.

And then lose him in the offseason when he asks for 5 million dollars a season to be a inconsistent, injury prone, soft player. Flip has a lot in common with Staal, their offensive upside, and their defensive ability are pretty much equal, and Staal got 6 million. If you don't think Flip's and his agent aren't going to ask for the moon and the stars, you're kidding yourself. Trade him now in this sellers market, get a pick and a prospect as a cheap, as a offensively talented defensive forward.

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Has that ever even happened before? And if this is the assumed outcome of all of this, why is CGY expecting to get some huge payment in return? No GM would ever do that.

Well - if you're Flames GM Jay Feaster, and your team doesn't appear capable of making the playoffs (haven't been in thee playoffs since the spring of 2009) - you're probably thinking that a guy like Iginla - a UFA - will have some value - so let the bidding war begin.

As mentioned before - the chances are good that he'll return to Calgary when UFA season begins.

EDIT - in a roundabout way - Oilers Ryan Smyth made the "prodigal son" return to Edmonton back in 2011 after he was traded to the Islanders in 2007.

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Well this is the first time Ive heard he is expected to return to CGY for next season after reading several articles over the past week or two, so I dont know where you got that from. It just seems so dirty for him to leave for a couple months only to come back. How would teammates feel, or even fans for that matter.

Taking his 4 cups out of this situation, how would you feel if the wings traded Lids (and he agreed) at the deadline then we brought him back. Seems like it would completely tarnish his reputation in Detroit.

Theres no way hes been the first person to be in this situation, yet nobody has ever been traded only to return the next year as UFA. Let alone to his caliber and significance to the team. Just doesnt make sense when you introduce the human emotion element.

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Has that ever even happened before? And if this is the assumed outcome of all of this, why is CGY expecting to get some huge payment in return? No GM would ever do that.

Yeah a few years back...but not really to a "playoff" team. St. Louis dealt Keith Tkachuk to Atlanta at the deadline then then that following offseason he signed right back with the Blues

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Well this is the first time Ive heard he is expected to return to CGY for next season after reading several articles over the past week or two, so I dont know where you got that from. It just seems so dirty for him to leave for a couple months only to come back. How would teammates feel, or even fans for that matter.

Taking his 4 cups out of this situation, how would you feel if the wings traded Lids (and he agreed) at the deadline then we brought him back. Seems like it would completely tarnish his reputation in Detroit.

Theres no way hes been the first person to be in this situation, yet nobody has ever been traded only to return the next year as UFA. Let alone to his caliber and significance to the team. Just doesnt make sense when you introduce the human emotion element.

There's no link, or proof to anything...More or less speculation - just like there's no link/proof that Iginla wants a contract extension with the team he's traded to.

To me - this is all "common sense" really...Iginla loves Calgary; GM Feaster knows the team probably won't make the playoffs; why not max out what ya got with Iginla being a "rental", and then returning to Calgary in the summer?

I'm sure most fans will get over it.

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Yeah a few years back...but not really to a "playoff" team. St. Louis dealt Keith Tkachuk to Atlanta at the deadline then then that following offseason he signed right back with the Blues

Correct. Sort of. He was traded from Atlanta back to St Louis for a 4th rounder.

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Correct. Sort of. He was traded from Atlanta back to St Louis for a 4th rounder.

His rights were traded.

Has that ever even happened before? And if this is the assumed outcome of all of this, why is CGY expecting to get some huge payment in return? No GM would ever do that.

Feaster is expecting that huge payment because he is a terrible GM.

This is how I feel about our Filppula situation, we have him as part of a trade then sign him as a free agent in the summer...as close as we can come to having our cake and eating it too.

There's a difference. Iginla is near the end of his career, has boatloads of money, and has been settled in Calgary for a long time. Filppula's situation isn't very comparable.

Or we keep a cheap good player for a playoff run and don't waste one of the last years of datsyuk.

Ugh, this is getting annoying. The idea that Datsyuk will return to Russia in 2014 is purely speculative. I don't know why so many people are choosing to take it as fact.

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Ugh, this is getting annoying. The idea that Datsyuk will return to Russia in 2014 is purely speculative. I don't know why so many people are choosing to take it as fact.

I might be missing something, but it seems to me he's just stating the obvious: that Datsyuk's days are, in fact, numbered. That has nothing to do with Russia or whatever. It's his age.

Ideally, he plays here into his 40s and continues to tear s*** up even then, a la Selanne. But, well....

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Ugh, this is getting annoying. The idea that Datsyuk will return to Russia in 2014 is purely speculative. I don't know why so many people are choosing to take it as fact.

Yea sounds like those rumors in 2000 that Lidstrom was going back to Sweden because he wanted his boys to go to school in Sweden instead of America. :hehe:

Din758 take a look at Grimey's post...Pretty much sums it all up.

Dude, +1 for the Simpsons reference

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Dude, +1 for the Simpsons reference

What's this? "Extremely High Voltage"? Well, I don't need safety gloves, because I'm Homer Simp--

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Ugh, this is getting annoying. The idea that Datsyuk will return to Russia in 2014 is purely speculative. I don't know why so many people are choosing to take it as fact.

Because the idea that someone would go to play hockey where their family lives is massively unprecedented in the last couple years. Its not like 2 Wings free agents didn't return with family being at least part of the reason. And its really not like the KHL would pay him a lot more than he would make in the NHL for doing it either. /sarcasm

Last offseason Stuart and Lidstrom both departed the Wings, naming family as at least part of the reason for their departures. Say what you will, but Lidstrom wasn't like Yzerman, playing until he could no longer play, he could have played more seasons, even if he may have started declining, at a high level. Pavel's daughter is in Russia right now, she is young, and as it has been pointed out, he lost his parents young. Most people in this situation would want to be near their child. Add to this the fact the KHL will pay him a salary the Wings (or any other team for that matter) could never match, and you have a lot of people taking the short, and logical leap that Datsyuk's days in Detroit maybe shorter than we want them to be.

As for Iginla, too old, too expensive, and too disinterested in Detroit. Not gunna happen.

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Even though we are not on the reported list of teams he is willing to go to, I would offer them Paterson, Frk/Sheahan and a 1st (it's what they are asking for) and make a run for the Cup. I think he would warm up to the idea of playing with Pav and Z

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Because the idea that someone would go to play hockey where their family lives is massively unprecedented in the last couple years. Its not like 2 Wings free agents didn't return with family being at least part of the reason. And its really not like the KHL would pay him a lot more than he would make in the NHL for doing it either. /sarcasm

For every NHL player who does it, there are droves who don't, so don't act as if it's the rule rather than the exception, and, accordingly, don't act like it's any rock-solid evidence in support of your claim.

Last offseason Stuart and Lidstrom both departed the Wings, naming family as at least part of the reason for their departures. Say what you will, but Lidstrom wasn't like Yzerman, playing until he could no longer play, he could have played more seasons, even if he may have started declining, at a high level. Pavel's daughter is in Russia right now, she is young, and as it has been pointed out, he lost his parents young. Most people in this situation would want to be near their child. Add to this the fact the KHL will pay him a salary the Wings (or any other team for that matter) could never match, and you have a lot of people taking the short, and logical leap that Datsyuk's days in Detroit maybe shorter than we want them to be.

As for Iginla, too old, too expensive, and too disinterested in Detroit. Not gunna happen.

Stuart did it, yes. Lidstrom's main reason for retirement, as stipulated by the man himself, was that he wanted to walk away from the game on his own terms rather than watch it slowly walk away from him. And Datsyuk doesn't need to worry about money anymore.

But hey, have it your way; worry as much as you want.

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Reports: Iginla won't dress for Flames
Wednesday, 03.27.2013 / 7:57 PM / News
NHL.com

With the trade deadline a week away, the Calgary Flames may be preparing for life without their captain.

Multiple media outlets are reporting that Jarome Iginla will not be in uniform when the Flames face theColorado Avalanche on Wednesday night.

TSN's Bob McKenzie reported via Twitter that an Iginla deal is not imminent, but rather that Flames management is protecting its captain from possible injury. Calgary will also host the Columbus Blue Jackets on Friday before visiting the Edmonton Oilers on Monday.

The trade deadline is 3 p.m. ET on Wednesday, April 3.

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Its possibly not related but apparently Boston is also sitting Khokhoclachev, and Bartkowski.

The rumor is that the deal consists of those 2 and Malcolm Subban for Iginla.

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They're saying that doesn't mean a deal is imminent, but I don't buy the whole "staying healthy" thing. He's about to be moved, IMO.

Millbury et al. are saying he's heading to Boston.

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For every NHL player who does it, there are droves who don't, so don't act as if it's the rule rather than the exception, and, accordingly, don't act like it's any rock-solid evidence in support of your claim.

Stuart did it, yes. Lidstrom's main reason for retirement, as stipulated by the man himself, was that he wanted to walk away from the game on his own terms rather than watch it slowly walk away from him. And Datsyuk doesn't need to worry about money anymore.

But hey, have it your way; worry as much as you want.

Did Richards? Did Suter? Did any huge name free agent that hit the open market? I haven't seen that many free agents who said 'Well ill play for a lot less, because who cares about money anymore!'.

As for Lidstrom:

Per USA Today

The Wings fervently hoped Lidstrom would keep playing, but returning to his native Sweden with his wife, with whom he has four sons, long has been on Lidstrom's horizon.

Per the Free Press

Lidstrom's family was a big reason he retired.

Per Mitch Albom:

he deserves great admiration for walking away from a game when he could still be one of its top players, for leaving money on the table when the Wings would have happily paid him, for returning to his native Sweden because "we are a tight-knit family" and that's where his aging parents live, and he wants his kids to be near them and their cousins.

Shall I continue? I can. I have a lot more where these came from.

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EDIT: HockeyTown0001 already reported this up a bit. Sorry about that. Delete this one?

NHL.com reports Iginla is a healthy scratch against Colorado.

With the NHL Trade Deadline a week away, the Calgary Flames may be preparing for life without their captain.

The Flames announced about two hours before game time Wednesday that Jarome Iginla will not be in uniform when they play host to the Colorado Avalanche.

The team said "No further information will be provided at this time."

Iginla has been in the lineup for every one of Calgary's games since April 7, 2007, a streak of 441.

TSN's Bob McKenzie reported via Twitter that an Iginla deal is not necessarily imminent, but rather Flames management is protecting him from possible injury. Calgary will play the Columbus Blue Jackets on Friday before visiting the Edmonton Oilers on Monday.

The trade deadline is 3 p.m. ET on Wednesday, April 3.

Edited by Adidarw

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The Bruins feel like the most logical fit to me, as well. Aside from the obvious facts that we've seen tonight, I just couldn't see him in a Hawks or Pens sweater.

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Khokhlachev, Bartkowski, and a 1st.

(I'd quote block this but I'm on mobile)

"@dantencer: Khokhlachev: '11 2nd round, centerman, 48 pts in 29 games in Windsor last yr. Bartkowski: '08 7th round, defenseman, 20-25 pts/year in AHL."

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