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#101 Tr!PoD#19

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:17 AM

ryan whitney would be the perfect pick up forget  bouwmeester , he wouldnt cost as much to get and he would be a ufa and not carry a 6.6 cap hit next year
 
that being said who would be out of the line up if we got another defensemen??? gotta say i been really impressed with kindl and lashoff  smith's not going anywhere as well as kronwall and ericsson .... quincey would be out of the lineup when he returns if we got someone else???  guessing it would be lashoff and kindl rotating


Yeah, let's get the guy who can't crack the Oilers lineup. Whitney is done, dude. He has ZERO footspeed. Absolute pylon in his own zone.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:18 AM

I think Calgary should offer him to Peter Chiarelli first, only have have J-Bo block the trade & force the Flames to send him somewhere else

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:25 AM

Yeah, let's get the guy who can't crack the Oilers lineup. Whitney is done, dude. He has ZERO footspeed. Absolute pylon in his own zone.

 

he'd be alot better here than with the oilers and hes a ufa unlike bouweester and his huge cap hit nevermind the demand flames will want in return .... no thanks



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:32 AM

You mean like using $6.8 mil of their cap space on Bouwmesster?


He's overpaid -- that isn't my argument. There were many other moves which perpetuated the situation in Calgary as well.
 
 
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:37 AM

he'd be alot better here than with the oilers and hes a ufa unlike bouweester and his huge cap hit nevermind the demand flames will want in return .... no thanks

 

He would be no better at all. His injury is such that he can neither skate well nor turn well. He would be as much a liability here as there.

 

It's not uncommon for people to claim that moving from another team to the Wings can improve one's play, but suggesting that it will spontaneously heal one's injuries is new.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:00 AM

He's overpaid -- that isn't my argument. There were many other moves which perpetuated the situation in Calgary as well.

I know.
But that's the main reason I don't want him. That salary cap hit would impede the Wings ability to make moves which would address their needs better than he would



Bouwmeester would instantly become our best defenseman. If the price wasn't anything too outrageous, i'd do it in a heartbeat.

Kronwall is much better



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:03 AM

Flames fans can't wait to get rid of him. Of course Kenny takes the bait.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:10 AM

Flames fans can't wait to get rid of him. Of course Kenny takes the bait.

 

They've actually been raving about him this year.  He would be a good get.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:40 AM

The only thing more annoying than hearing Holland say "we like our team" is seeing that quote posted in every single thread.

 
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:47 AM

d man like that sint going to make wings better.... the issue is structure top to bottom. quit putting bandaids on this team holland



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:53 AM

the trade that should happen is dave tippet for mike babcock please.... our coach has been going through the motions for the last 4 years... how many assistant coaches do we need to blow through before we realize the real issue



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:11 AM

 
Offense? Are you aware that he has totaled 77 points over his past 246 games? No offensively-capable, top-pairing d-man on any team musters less than 30 points for three seasons in a row.


He is a puck mover, isn't he? I didn't mean he'd score, but that we are sorely in need of a guy who can play puck possession hockey.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:30 AM

the trade that should happen is dave tippet for mike babcock please.... our coach has been going through the motions for the last 4 years... how many assistant coaches do we need to blow through before we realize the real issue

 

That would be incredible stupid, Babcock although not having a great roster - an average one at best - managed to still keep this team in the playoff race thats a huge accomplishment. Tippet is one heck of a trainer,but he is not Mike Babcock.

 

Jay-Bouwmeester would be great and easily be the Wings best defenseman, I think all he needs is a change of scenery to blossom again. The guy was an absolute powerhorse on the backend for the Panthers a few years ago.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:12 AM

JBO would make the Wings better.  He is the perfect #2 dman.  Problem is the Wings do not have a legit #1 guy.  Kronwall is also an ideal #2 guy.  The only problem with trading for JBO is his salary.  He is simply not worth the 6.68 mil a season he is currently being paid.  However he only has 1 more year left on his deal.

 

Pehaps Kenny is thinking of trading for JBO now while he is relatively cheap (due to his big salary) and then sign him to a contract extension at a lower rate (5.5 mil). 

 

A top 4 of Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey and JBO is not great but it's better than what we have right now.  Add in Smith, Kindl, Lashoff and hopefully Dekeyser and things are looking better on the Wings blueline.  Sproul and Ouellette are down the road.

 

I don't see spots for White (UFA) or Colaiacovo.  Hopefully Kenny buys out Cola this summer.

 

I see Kenny having a price he is willing to pay for JBO and if Feaster exceeds it then he will pull out.  Something like Ferraro, (b grade defense prospect and a 1st) may get it done.  The Iginla trade likely lowered the price as the Pens did not give up any player on its current roster. I am not sure how willing Kenny is to surrender his 1st round pick seeing as how he gave one up for Quincey last year.  We'll see what happens.


Edited by Hatethedrake!, 29 March 2013 - 08:16 AM.

Jordan Tootoo will wreck shop.

We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:22 AM

That would be incredible stupid, Babcock although not having a great roster - an average one at best - managed to still keep this team in the playoff race thats a huge accomplishment. Tippet is one heck of a trainer,but he is not Mike Babcock.

 

Jay-Bouwmeester would be great and easily be the Wings best defenseman, I think all he needs is a change of scenery to blossom again. The guy was an absolute powerhorse on the backend for the Panthers a few years ago.

Average at best???

WE have 2 of the 10 best players in the league, one of the top 10 d-men in the league an above average (at the very least) starting goaltender and solid cast around them. 

Kronwall is much better than Bouwmeester



JBO would make the Wings better.  He is the perfect #2 dman.  Problem is the Wings do not have a legit #1 guy.  Kronwall is also an ideal #2 guy.  The only problem with trading for JBO is his salary.  He is simply not worth the 6.68 mil a season he is currently being paid.  However he only has 1 more year left on his deal.

 

Pehaps Kenny is thinking of trading for JBO now while he is relatively cheap (due to his big salary) and then sign him to a contract extension at a lower rate (5.5 mil). 

 

A top 4 of Kronwall, Ericsson, Quincey and JBO is not great but it's better than what we have right now.  Add in Smith, Kindl, Lashoff and hopefully Dekeyser and things are looking better on the Wings blueline.  Sproul and Ouellette are down the road.

 

I don't see spots for White (UFA) or Colaiacovo.  Hopefully Kenny buys out Cola this summer.

 

I see Kenny having a price he is willing to pay for JBO and if Feaster exceeds it then he will pull out.  Something like Ferraro, (b grade defense prospect and a 1st) may get it done.  The Iginla trade likely lowered the price as the Pens did not give up any player on its current roster. I am not sure how willing Kenny is to surrender his 1st round pick seeing as how he gave one up for Quincey last year.  We'll see what happens.

Kronwall is not a legit #1???
Who is then? Name 15 better d-men.


Edited by Johnz96, 29 March 2013 - 08:21 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:31 AM

I don't think there are many legit #1 dmen in the NHL.  Chara, Weber, Doughty, Pietrangelo, Suter, Keith, Karlsson, Ekman-Larsson come to mind. 

Average at best???

WE have 2 of the 10 best players in the league, one of the top 10 d-men in the league an above average (at the very least) starting goaltender and solid cast around them. 

Kronwall is much better than Bouwmeester



Kronwall is not a legit #1???
Who is then? Name 15 better d-men.


Edited by Hatethedrake!, 29 March 2013 - 08:33 AM.

Jordan Tootoo will wreck shop.

We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:49 AM

i was under the assumption that we liked our team

 


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:15 AM

on what planet is kronwall a top-10 dman?  LOL.  guy can't play defense to save his life.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:39 AM

on what planet is kronwall a top-10 dman?  LOL.  guy can't play defense to save his life.

 

Name 30 better defensemen in the league than Kronner (1 #1 dman per team) and I will agree he is not a #1 dman



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:51 AM

Forgive my ignorance...What's so special about Mrazek?..I know nothing about him.

 

I don't mean to talk down on him, but as puckbags pointed out - if Howard signs on for another 4, or 5 years where does Mrazek fit in?..Is he a "sure thing" at the NHL level?

 

IMHO Bouwmeester could fit in very well in Detroit; he has the skating/puck handling skills to excel with the puck possession style of play, he's 29 years old, stays healthy throughout the season, and there's only 1 year left on his current contract (for those who use that as a reason not getting him).



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