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#41 Carman

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:58 PM

more like "best" player in the last 10 years

 

That's not what this thread is about, was just answering why this is relevant to this forum.

 

Here is a interesting list that might be surprising to you. http://www.hockey-re...ame_career.html

Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss it further.

 

Good to here it seems like just teeth, a broken jaw could sideline him for a while.



#42 Holmstrom96

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:05 PM

First of all, I hope Crosby is not seriously injured. Secondly you should not mock someone and laugh at them for being injured even if you do not like them, it is disrespectful and rude. That being said, I REALLY don't like crosby,a nd I could care less if he ever plays again, but I honestly feel bad for the guy, he seems to be todays Mario Lemieux

 

I agree.  I can't stand Crosby, but I don't wish this on him.  I hope he's alright, but it looks nasty.

 



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

That's not what this thread is about, was just answering why this is relevant to this forum.

 

Here is a interesting list that might be surprising to you. http://www.hockey-re...ame_career.html

Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss it further.

 

Good to here it seems like just teeth, a broken jaw could sideline him for a while.

 

Do you think he is better than a 33 year old gretzky that got 130 points in 81 games in 93-94? that list doesn't surprise me, heis a great player, it will go down a bit towards the end of his career, but he is the best in the last 10-15 years, not 20 years.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:20 PM

Do you think he is better than a 33 year old gretzky that got 130 points in 81 games in 93-94? that list doesn't surprise me, heis a great player, it will go down a bit towards the end of his career, but he is the best in the last 10-15 years, not 20 years.

 

Considering he's had 159 points in his last 98 games while playing a better two way game? Yes.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:22 PM

The guy may as well just go and make the full turn to heel and just come back with a damn grill, hopefully that's all it will come to.
 
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I actually think that would make me hate him less. It would give him more personality ;) Especially if he quit whining and acted like a straight up G...

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#46 Johnz96

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

Considering he's had 159 points in his last 98 games while playing a better two way game? Yes.

And a lot less net to shoot at.
You can't compare points in the Bettman era to before he became commissioner because the goalie equipment is so much bigger and there is so much less net to shoot at. 



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

Considering he's had 159 points in his last 98 games while playing a better two way game? Yes.

 

call me when he hits 130 points in a full season, let alone hitting 200 points, or when he is anywhere near 1.9 ppg/career...

 

saying he is better then the great one, is like saying eel is better then a kobe beef steak



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:01 PM

call me when he hits 130 points in a full season, let alone hitting 200 points, or when he is anywhere near 1.9 ppg/career...

 

saying he is better then the great one, is like saying eel is better then a kobe beef steak

 

I never said that he was better than Gretzky, I said he is playing better than the 93-94 version of Gretzky.

 

And hopefully he can play a full season, but he's been at a 1.60 pace for the last 3 years. And in today's game that's pretty impressive, is it not?



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

Hope he's back for tomorrow's NHL on NBC game.

They're not playing? Interesting.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:34 PM

I never said that he was better than Gretzky, I said he is playing better than the 93-94 version of Gretzky.

 

And hopefully he can play a full season, but he's been at a 1.60 pace for the last 3 years. And in today's game that's pretty impressive, is it not?

 

not saying it isn't impressive, but those are small sample numbers. there is no real way of determining if he would play at that pace over a full 82 game season, and he has never gotten more then 109 points in a season, so he is not the best player in the last 20 years.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:36 PM

Because this forum is about talking about the NHL in general.

 

And the leading scorer in the league, and currently best player of the past 20 years just got hit in the face with a 90 mile per hour slap shot.

Don't really have to read the thread if it doesn't interest you.

 

Ah yes, more incorrect number stroking.  He's not the leading "scorer" in the league, Stamkos is, unless you can win games with assists.  Are you his mom or something?

 

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:37 PM

Sucks to see a guy get hurt, even though I don't care for him as a player.

But more importantly....where the hell was that shot headed? That wasn't even close to being on target, unless Crosby door dinged that guy's Porsche in the parking deck.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:37 PM

I don't like Crosby and would never wish this on anyone. But its hockey people get hit in the face all the time. And he had to leave the game? A lot of guys are right back out there...

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:46 PM

Ah yes, more incorrect number stroking.  He's not the leading "scorer" in the league, Stamkos is, unless you can win games with assists.  Are you his mom or something?

 

esteef

 

Not trying to sound condescending here, but you do realize that scorer is used to describe scoring points? You do know that the Art Ross is for leading the league in "scoring points".

 

I don't understand why you seem to make it personal with "are you his mom" type remarks. I have no qualms with you.

 

I try to respect people's opinions, I'm not going to call Euro_twins anything because we disagree, I actually enjoy discussing hockey and hearing out their view points, and I enjoy sharing mine. Not sure why it doesn't seem encouraged.

 

not saying it isn't impressive, but those are small sample numbers. there is no real way of determining if he would play at that pace over a full 82 game season, and he has never gotten more then 109 points in a season, so he is not the best player in the last 20 years.

 

That's fair, I'm in the camp that is thinking he was just hitting his prime at that time, and if he wasn't injured his numbers would be at least the same, or better. As the sample size is about the same. Really hope he can stay healthy for a full season and see if he can answer that question definitively though.


Edited by Carman, 30 March 2013 - 07:49 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:46 PM

Sucks to see a guy get hurt, even though I don't care for him as a player.

But more importantly....where the hell was that shot headed? That wasn't even close to being on target, unless Crosby door dinged that guy's Porsche in the parking deck.

 

watch the video, it was deflected



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:51 PM

not saying it isn't impressive, but those are small sample numbers. there is no real way of determining if he would play at that pace over a full 82 game season, and he has never gotten more then 109 points in a season, so he is not the best player in the last 20 years.

 

The question was comparing Crosby now, to a 33 year old Gretzky when he put up 130 points at 33/34 years old. Sure he can do it now, but I highly doubt he will when he's 33/34.


Edited by darkmanx, 30 March 2013 - 07:52 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:51 PM

Like him or not as a player doesn't matter, wishing someone harm or being happy they are hurt is low. It's not like he personally assaulted you or your family lol. Hope he is okay.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:52 PM

I don't like Crosby and would never wish this on anyone. But its hockey people get hit in the face all the time. And he had to leave the game? A lot of guys are right back out there...

 

Depends on how the teeth are hit. If they are knocked out clean you can dull the nerves and stitch it up in the dressing room, but if they are chipped and pushed in the gums it can't really be dealt with at the rink, and the pain really can't be dulled easily. Also take into account it's a regular season game, and his team is well ahead in the standings. It's not worth the risk with that context.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

Not trying to sound condescending here, but you do realize that scorer is used to describe scoring points? You do know that the Art Ross is for leading the league in "scoring points".

 

I don't understand why you seem to make it personal with "are you his mom" type remarks. I have no qualms with you.

 

I try to respect people's opinions, I'm not going to call Euro_twins anything because we disagree, I actually enjoy discussing hockey and hearing out their view points, and I enjoy sharing mine. Not sure why it doesn't seem encouraged.

 

Easy, you purposely bait load any and every Crosby comment you make on this board in a troll-like fashion to pump his tires and draw a reaction.  So when people react, you play dumb and go "what'd I do?".  Furthermore, are you his mom?

 

esteef

 

edit:  and "scoring" refers to actually scoring goals, which you already knew but didn't fit as nicely into your Crosby championing agenda here.


Edited by esteef, 30 March 2013 - 08:04 PM.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 08:06 PM

Easy, you purposely bait load any and every Crosby comment you make on this board in a troll-like fashion to pump his tires and draw a reaction.  So when people react, you play dumb and go "what'd I do?".  Furthermore, are you his mom?

 

esteef

 

I'm not trying to draw any reaction though, I'm just discussing topics on a hockey board.

 

I could be making threads all about Crosby, but I try to limit myself to just threads about him. I don't bring him up out of context, like Franzen is. I don't get it, just because you don't like my opinion doesn't make it trolling. Feel free to actually discuss ideas instead of other posters.

 

Like how you seem to think scoring only means goals. That's rich, you must be such a hockey encyclopedia, can you please share some more of your great insight?

 

and "scoring" refers to actually scoring goals, which you already knew but didn't fit as nicely into your Crosby championing agenda here.

 

No, it really doesn't. The art ross is given to the league's scoring leader. http://en.wikipedia....Art_Ross_Trophy

 

You are thinking of goal scoring.


Edited by Carman, 30 March 2013 - 08:09 PM.






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