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#121 VM1138

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

I keep hearing these top line wingers being mentioned in possible trades for Flip and I just laugh.  We aren't going to get centerpiece players for our scraps. 

 

Scraps, no.  But Filppula isn't a scrap.  He's a good centerman who is defensively responsible and has occasional flashes of brilliance.  He could be packaged up to get a reliable vet (Gaborik) for a team who needs a defensive forward or needs to get stronger down the middle, and wants to get a little younger or cheaper.

 

Filppula, White (or Quincey) and a pick could be attractive.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

A first round draft pick is not a centerpiece player, but I do agree with you.  I would like to see that trade.

I'd like the see Holland wrangle up as many 1st as he can this year.  The BJ's have 3 in the 1st round.  I'd love to see the Wings get 3 as well  :lol: .  Assume Flip goes to the Ducks for their 1st, Franzen would maybe have fun in Boston for their 1st.  Ducks lose in the 1st round and Boston loses the SCF.  Done.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

Scraps, no.  But Filppula isn't a scrap.  He's a good centerman who is defensively responsible and has occasional flashes of brilliance.  He could be packaged up to get a reliable vet (Gaborik) for a team who needs a defensive forward or needs to get stronger down the middle, and wants to get a little younger or cheaper.

 

Filppula, White (or Quincey) and a pick could be attractive.

 

Well that's pretty much the most reasonable post I've read all day. 


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:30 PM

I keep pointing this out: Gaborik doesn't magically term the Wings into a contender. What he does do is force the Wings to sell their future for a slight bump in their tiny chances of going anywhere this season. If Hollands stands pat this year it would only be a bad move, not the terrible one like everyone seems to have a hardon for.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:36 PM

I keep pointing this out: Gaborik doesn't magically term the Wings into a contender. What he does do is force the Wings to sell their future for a slight bump in their tiny chances of going anywhere this season. If Hollands stands pat this year it would only be a bad move, not the terrible one like everyone seems to have a hardon for.

If Flip isn't involved in a Gaborik trade then I'd rather them wait until summer when the Rangers have to shave some salary and get him at a lower asking price.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:43 PM

I am both happy and excited that THIS team will be sneaking into playoffs and rolling the dice with some puck luck and a hot goalkeeper this year......next year has me weary of the treatment our boys will be getting in the East, i dont think they will be rolling out the red carpet for our arrival and have no problem with Management standing firm at deadline this week and loading up over the summer for a long successful run on the Eastside.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

I keep pointing this out: Gaborik doesn't magically term the Wings into a contender. What he does do is force the Wings to sell their future for a slight bump in their tiny chances of going anywhere this season. If Hollands stands pat this year it would only be a bad move, not the terrible one like everyone seems to have a hardon for.

 

He scores goals.

 

The rest of the roster? Doesn't score goals.

 

I agree we aren't a Marian Gaborik away from being elite, but a Marian Gaborik is they type of guy we need to add in order to move forward.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

Reading on Twitter that Wings and Blues still pushing for Bouwmeester, and no one has offered Buffalo anything good for Regehr. Not familiar with him, but Holland has a good relationship with Buffalo. If we lose on Bouwmeester, could be work out a deal with Buffalo you think?

 
He scores goals.
 
The rest of the roster? Doesn't score goals.
 
I agree we aren't a Marian Gaborik away from being elite, but a Marian Gaborik is they type of guy we need to add in order to move forward.


Another way to say it is: we aren't a Gaborik away from a Cup, but we won't get near a Cup without a Gaborik type.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

Reading on Twitter that Wings and Blues still pushing for Bouwmeester, and no one has offered Buffalo anything good for Regehr. Not familiar with him, but Holland has a good relationship with Buffalo. If we lose on Bouwmeester, could be work out a deal with Buffalo you think?


Another way to say it is: we aren't a Gaborik away from a Cup, but we won't get near a Cup without a Gaborik type.

 

Hard to imagine Darcy Regier trading away a guy who pronounces his last name the same way he does.



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:22 PM

Reading on Twitter that Wings and Blues still pushing for Bouwmeester, and no one has offered Buffalo anything good for Regehr. Not familiar with him, but Holland has a good relationship with Buffalo. If we lose on Bouwmeester, could be work out a deal with Buffalo you think?
 

 

Regehr isn't the defensive stalwart he was in his Calgary days.



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:28 PM

Regehr isn't the defensive stalwart he was in his Calgary days.

That I can agree with.  And he's much slower now.  Not interested in him.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:41 PM

Unless we get a top end winger, I'm not super concerned with Regehr's foot speed.  It's not like we play a transition game anymore anyway.  The puck possession days are behind us, at least for this season, which is all you'd be getting Regehr for anyway. 

 

Add Gaborik or someone to the lineup and that might change, but for now, grinding is our game and Regehr would be fine. 


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

Unless we get a top end winger, I'm not super concerned with Regehr's foot speed.  It's not like we play a transition game anymore anyway.  The puck possession days are behind us, at least for this season, which is all you'd be getting Regehr for anyway. 

 

Add Gaborik or someone to the lineup and that might change, but for now, grinding is our game and Regehr would be fine. 

 

Your tune might change when his glacial skating begins to cause problems.



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:52 PM

Unless we get a top end winger, I'm not super concerned with Regehr's foot speed.  It's not like we play a transition game anymore anyway.  The puck possession days are behind us, at least for this season, which is all you'd be getting Regehr for anyway. 

 

Add Gaborik or someone to the lineup and that might change, but for now, grinding is our game and Regehr would be fine. 

Add Gaborik and re-sign him after next year and we'll have our transition, puck moving/possession game back when guys like Ouellet, Sproul and Backman are Wings.  Even Almqvist.  Keep puck possession and add guys who could add to it with a Gaborik type acquisition.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:57 PM

Add Gaborik and re-sign him after next year and we'll have our transition, puck moving/possession game back when guys like Ouellet, Sproul and Backman are Wings.  Even Almqvist.  Keep puck possession and add guys who could add to it with a Gaborik type acquisition.

How about no. Hes making 7.5 million a season, and is 19 pts in 33 games. He is not young, he is not durable, he is not the answer.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:33 PM

How about no. Hes making 7.5 million a season, and is 19 pts in 33 games. He is not young, he is not durable, he is not the answer.


And it has nothing to do with Torty's system? Or the fact that he is a sniper and not getting enough chances...

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

Unless we get a top end winger, I'm not super concerned with Regehr's foot speed.  It's not like we play a transition game anymore anyway.  The puck possession days are behind us, at least for this season, which is all you'd be getting Regehr for anyway. 

 

It seems we won't be finding out! What a ripoff.



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:12 PM

How about no. Hes making 7.5 million a season, and is 19 pts in 33 games. He is not young, he is not durable, he is not the answer.


Stats aside, Gaborik is a stud. He's exactly what Detroit should be trying to acquire since we failed to sign a certain sniper last off season.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

I'd love Gabby, definitely a risk though. Not quite a playoff performer either. He won't solve everything but it'd be exciting.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 09:17 PM

I'd love Gabby, definitely a risk though. Not quite a playoff performer either. He won't solve everything but it'd be exciting.


Of course he wouldn't be acquired to solve everything, but he'd sure as heck be a start.





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