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Brunner hasn't hit the wall. He has slammed into it.


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#1 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:12 PM

Jesus Christ......

 

I'm not giving up on this kid by any means, but he is running on fumes. I think he'll be in better shape next year.

 

And because we can't rely on him at the moment, we are OFFICIALLY the same team we've been for the last 4 years.

 

 

 

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#2 Crashnburnluder

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

Jesus Christ......

 

I'm not giving up on this kid by any means, but he is running on fumes.

 

And because we can't rely on him at the moment, we are OFFICIALLY the same team we've been for the last 4 years.

 

 

 

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I think the longer season is really getting to him. Combine that with the fact that he needs to play with talent to really be effective but is stuck on the bottom lines isn't helping either. I think he will have a lot better season next year when he is more conditioned for the length of the season.



#3 Number19

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

It sucks he was looking like the real deal this year (like who's Hossa?). He looked dangerous out there today about the only positive thing I saw all game. Had a couple nice releases. I'd like to see him with Pavel maybe move Franzen with Z.



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:17 PM

Bottom six time isn't going to help any. He's pretty bad Defensively Pair him with Datsyuk to help make up for it,

 

However some reason i believe Brun and Helm together could be quite a force on the 3rd line.



#5 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:23 PM

I think the longer season is really getting to him. Combine that with the fact that he needs to play with talent to really be effective but is stuck on the bottom lines isn't helping either. I think he will have a lot better season next year when he is more conditioned for the length of the season.

 

In addition to the ridiculously condensed schedule, I agree. Hopefully he can get his conditioning up for next season.

 

This shouldn't be all that surprising I guess. Look around the league: it looks like a bunch of rookies are falling by the wayside.



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

he only slowed down cause Z fell off. it would be nice for him to be able to score without Z though



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:40 PM

I bought a Brunner jersey shirt at the game today too... shoot...



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:45 PM

1. i think he has been conditioned by the "no hit league" for too long.

 

2. the NHL has got a look at him and they play him close.

 

3. top it off with a dose of too many games in close quarters,and team lacking desire...

 

= "you get what we got here today, i dont like it any more than you like it"

 

off season conditioning...he will be up for it next year.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:45 PM

I bought a Brunner jersey shirt at the game today too... shoot...

 

I feel sorry for you.  Not about the Brunner jersey...



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:53 PM

I'm not worried. It's not a lack of effort, he just needs to learn the game. His talent is there, he is a great skater, and the shot is top notch. He's also better than I thought he would be passing the puck.

 

He just over thinks the game too much, and he makes some really bad decisions defensively. He is really raw when it comes to that part of the game, but he has never stopped skating or anything like that. So I definitely think his game will develop with time. Once he starts to understand the game he'll create more offensive opportunities for himself by creating turnovers.

 

His hot start had a lot to do with everyone around him playing well, once Zetterberg fell off he's game went right with him. And Brunner's not at the level yet where he can create his own scoring chances.

 

The good news is he won't get a big deal, that kinda scared me in the beginning of the year when he was close to the goal scoring lead. Now hopefully we sign him to a couple year deal, and have a steal of a player once his game develops.



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:40 PM

One of the things we all have to keep in mind is, brunner, Z, and Datsyuk were all in game shape when the season started. part of the reasons for their hot start. Now that the rest of the leahue is in shape, the league "caught up" to them. This is part and only part of the reason why all 3 are struggling to score lately. Now add in the offensive limits of the others on the team and yes it does make our O weak.



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

Brunner needs the off season, and a real pre-season to get into shape. The guy is a bit lost, and his line-mates aren't helping him either. Just needs time to think. But on the positive side, his contract will probably be longer and cheaper the worse he plays right now. Which is good!



#13 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

Might be a confidence thing? He needs to get a goal to help that out imo...



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:47 PM

This means we can re-sign him at a lower price.... thats the best way to look at it.



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:01 PM

I'm not at all concerned.  This is pretty common with European players.  It would have been tough in a regular season, but with the condensed schedule and all the travel, I pretty much expected this.  Seems like most Europeans come over and light it up the first few weeks, and then the travel and physical nature of the game sets in.  If they're truly talented, which I think Brunner is, they adjust.  Look at how many times in the past month the Wings have gone West.  The constant time changes, games at night, early afternoon, early evening.  I imagine that can totally mess up your body and your mind.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:02 PM

One of the things we all have to keep in mind is, brunner, Z, and Datsyuk were all in game shape when the season started. part of the reasons for their hot start. Now that the rest of the leahue is in shape, the league "caught up" to them. This is part and only part of the reason why all 3 are struggling to score lately. Now add in the offensive limits of the others on the team and yes it does make our O weak.

This. And put the injuries and our new formed D in the mix why our offensive is lacking power right now.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:23 PM

I have been saying for a long time that Brunner should be playing with Pavel... not on the bottom 6 and not with Hank... with Pavel.

 

Brunner has proven he can score goals and, more than that, he competes which is something Franzen does not do. IMO Brunner deserves to play with Pavel much more than Franzen, and I think we will get better results as well.



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:35 PM

He's a righty Hudler.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:47 PM

hopefully he finds a little scoring soon and still wants to play for the wings after this year.. not saying that i think he won't want to but it's possible. 

edit: also, i agree he'd probably benefit greatly from a full offseason/preseason and non-condensed schedule. i guess only time will tell..

Edited by amato, 31 March 2013 - 07:48 PM.

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#20 MibJab

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 08:14 PM

Not buying this longer season excuse. Its a 34 less game season. This is not a real NHL season. If he's falling off now, how can one expect him not to completely fall off 50 -82 games next season? I mean, he hit the 10 goal mark like a month and a half ago. No one else (minus Datsyuk) has scored more than 10 goals 36 games into the season? This team is pathetic offensively and will continue to get worse with guys like Sammy and either more washed up veterans or small skilled euros that don't have the size,strength, or drive to get anywhere near the middle of the ice let alone the front of the net. Instead, we're wasting valuable roster spots by putting our "grinders" out on top lines to do no more than stand in front of the net (net front presence) not making any sort of cycle or sustained offensive pressure possible. Keep the centers, Datsyuk, Helm, Andersson. And keep Fil only if he centers a line with Z as his wing (still confident they would both benefit from a switch back to their natural positions) Everyone else is expendable. This should be now or never with Nyquist and Tatar, but judging by the minimal opportunities they are getting, I'm leaning more towards never. Let them play or get some draft picks out of them and restart the process with players better fit for the daily NHL grind. One can only patch so many holes before the entire foundation gives out. 

 

We should add another top pairing defensemen because outside of Smith, (hopefully) Dekeyser, and Kronwall...its all mediocrity at best. But, after that, let the D grow on its own. The offense should be the main concern (from a fan's standpoint) now moving forward...and by main concern, i mean red alert! mayday! mayday! 







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