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#1 nyqvististhefuture

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:40 PM

the way these trades have been going we can EASILY get a 2nd round pick for white  and draft another possible gem ....looking at our d he'll be lucky to play a few more games here and he will not return

 

kronwall ericsson

 

quincey smith

 

kindl lashoff/dekeyser

 

coliacovo

 

we got 8 defensemen capable of playing without white

 

the last FOUR years with our 2nd round picks we got

 

Frk - Jurco - Ouellet - Sproul - Jarnkrok - Ferraro - Tatar

 

Look at that ridiculous talent guys now if we can get 2 2nd round picks again by trading white and hope to get another gem of a prospect then we have to do it



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:59 PM

Trade White

Trade Coliacovo

Trade Quincey

 

No interest in keeping any of those 3.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:00 PM

the way these trades have been going we can EASILY get a 2nd round pick for white  and draft another possible gem ....looking at our d he'll be lucky to play a few more games here and he will not return
 
kronwall ericsson
 
quincey smith
 
kindl lashoff/dekeyser
 
coliacovo
 
we got 8 defensemen capable of playing without white
 
the last FOUR years with our 2nd round picks we got
 
Frk - Jurco - Ouellet - Sproul - Jarnkrok - Ferraro - Tatar
 
Look at that ridiculous talent guys now if we can get 2 2nd round picks again by trading white and hope to get another gem of a prospect then we have to do it


If we can get a second for white that would be awesome. Then just maybe we could ship that pick and our 2014 1st for a gabby or pomonville type player

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

Trade White

Trade Coliacovo

Trade Quincey

 

No interest in keeping any of those 3.

Colo looked really good tonight.  I don't think it would be smart trading away all three of those guys.  I could see getting rid of White though.



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:34 PM

I'm afraid we won't trade White because of his right handed shot.... which doesn't seem all that effective.  I also remember reading around when he was scratched that the team still has him in their plans (whatever that means).



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:13 AM

I'm afraid we won't trade White because of his right handed shot.... which doesn't seem all that effective.  I also remember reading around when he was scratched that the team still has him in their plans (whatever that means).

Plans to make a trade???  :lol:



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:29 AM

Assuming Quincey is actually close to returning, and Cola doesn't break himself in the next 36 hours, I'd agree.

 

I'd give up any one of those three. Cola being the first choice (though he probably doesn't have any value), but White's a close second.



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:46 AM

They don't have a whole lot of value.  Bouwmeester, Regehr, and Douglas Murray all contribute something majorly.  None of those three have made much of an impact.  I wouldn't expect anything more than a 3rd rounder for any of those guys.

 

Teams don't want our garbage.  Second-round picks are all the more important in a deep draft.  We'd be lucky to get a bag of chips.  Certainly no roster players.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 02:28 AM

They don't have a whole lot of value.  Bouwmeester, Regehr, and Douglas Murray all contribute something majorly.  None of those three have made much of an impact.  I wouldn't expect anything more than a 3rd rounder for any of those guys.

 

Teams don't want our garbage.  Second-round picks are all the more important in a deep draft.  We'd be lucky to get a bag of chips.  Certainly no roster players.

Bouwmeester maybe, but Murray and Regehr are just depth/PKers. White has value as a puck-mover and on the PP. Having a s***ty year, but he's shown in the past that he can be worth 25-30 points a year. 2nd-rounder isn't out of the question. That's what SJ paid for him a couple years ago, and he wasn't having a great season at that time either. His worth depends on who is looking for someone with his skills, and who else is available. I don't know if I'd say "easily", but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if some playoff-bound team was willing to give up a 2nd.



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:52 AM

Colo looked really good tonight.  I don't think it would be smart trading away all three of those guys.  I could see getting rid of White though.

 The same Colo that was on aganist both goals who looked out of position all night, blew some 1 on 1's and double covered an Avs player on the PK and actually pushed him down and layed on top of him and Smith?  And people are ripping on Smith....  I'd rather have a D corps next year of:

 

Ericsson-Kronwall

Smith-Dekeyser

Kindl-Lashoff

Almqvist

 

Trade those 3 Dmen and draft some big forwards.  Or wait for all their contracts to expire after next year and get nothing for them as usual.



Bouwmeester maybe, but Murray and Regehr are just depth/PKers. White has value as a puck-mover and on the PP. Having a s***ty year, but he's shown in the past that he can be worth 25-30 points a year. 2nd-rounder isn't out of the question. That's what SJ paid for him a couple years ago, and he wasn't having a great season at that time either. His worth depends on who is looking for someone with his skills, and who else is available. I don't know if I'd say "easily", but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if some playoff-bound team was willing to give up a 2nd.

 

 Good puck moving Dmen can make the outlet pass and actually have our team keep possession.  He can't make that 1st pass to save his life.  He blindly throws it up the boards and loses it to the other team constantly.  I garuntee he leads the Wings in icings.  I would rather have a 7th round pick than White on the Wings.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:16 AM

I agree trade white for just about any pick at this point. Unless Colo gets hurt again

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:34 AM

I might be one of the few who thought Cola was pretty good last night.

 

as for white, does anyone think we can get a 2nd rounder for a journeyman who is struggling right now?



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:04 AM

I might be one of the few who thought Cola was pretty good last night.

 

as for white, does anyone think we can get a 2nd rounder for a journeyman who is struggling right now?

 

I do believe, some desperate teams might be willing to give up a second for him, keep in mind Regehr returned two seconds in a deep draft and he is not 2 times as good as White, sure better but not by much. I have nothing against White, he for sure is a serviceable second pairing guy but honestly playing with Lidas made him better, than he really is/was (same goes for Kronwall).


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:22 AM

regehr and murray got 2 2nd round picks and jordan leopold got a 2nd round pick and a 4th i believe it was im pretty sure if we waited till tomorrow we can get a 2nd round pick for ian white and perfect team to trade him in my eyes would be the boston bruins who are looking for a dman to help them on there powerplay which is non existant

 

worst case scenario at the very least he can get us a 3rd round pick



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:23 AM

Trade Ian White?

 

Have you seen Kronwall lately?



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:29 AM

Trade Ian White?

 

Have you seen Kronwall lately?

 

What do you mean?

 

Look at this great lateral movement on the second goal. He abandoned that side of the ice with magnificent agility.

 

http://video.nhl.com...bed-share-video

 

Or on the first goal where he puts up a great fight in front of the net, but it's ok Jeremy Morin is one of the strongest powerforwards in the league I wouldn't expect our number 1 guy to be able to clear a puck, or control his stick.

 

Or what about having the 2nd most minor penalties for defensemen in the entire league? It's ok, our number 1 guy doesn't need to be on the ice, he just wants to let other guys develop their penalty kill skills.

 

 

We need a #1, Kronwall is not the answer.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 10:34 AM

What do you mean?

 

Look at this great lateral movement on the second goal. He abandoned that side of the ice with magnificent agility.

 

http://video.nhl.com...bed-share-video

 

Or on the first goal where he puts up a great fight in front of the net, but it's ok Jeremy Morin is one of the strongest powerforwards in the league I wouldn't expect our number 1 guy to be able to clear a puck, or control his stick.

 

Or what about having the 2nd most minor penalties for defensemen in the entire league? It's ok, our number 1 guy doesn't need to be on the ice, he just wants to let other guys develop their penalty kill skills.

 

 

We need a #1, Kronwall is not the answer.

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#18 nyqvististhefuture

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:15 AM

if were gonna keep white around to be a healthy scratch just "incase" we might as well pick up kurtis foster whos on waivers for the rest of this season and then ship off white for a 2nd round pick



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

Get rid of White for anything at this point


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:17 PM

I agree that we need to get what we can for him, because in all likeliness, he will be let go this summer and we'll lose him for nothing.


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