achildr1 255 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Brian Burke. Man, I hope your not serious.I would give LGW two weeks before they completely hate that man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedWingsDad Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Khan said the hold up for the Wings with Gaborik was the $7.5M cap hit next year. Means KH has his eye on FA this summer and re-signing our current guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Brian Burke. Awesome, Red Wing fans would love giving up the #2 overall pick. and #9 pick. If you think Holland's made some bad trades, yikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 will anyone realy forgive Holland if he lets Flip walk now and get nothing this summer? 1 MasterPavel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Yes, the Kessel trade was bad; but he also fleeced the Flames for Phaneuf, got Lupol and Gardiner for Beauchemin; and though he's gone, his constructed Leafs team is a better team than Holland's Wings right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 will anyone realy forgive Holland if he lets Flip walk now and get nothing this summer? I bet he signs an extension. Not sure if everyone will agree with the amount but I don't see filp leaving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Means KH has his eye on FA this summer and re-signing our current guys. Because holding on to that money for free agency has worked out so well for us in the past few years. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 All the injuries are kind of irrelevant IMO, only Helm and Flipulla missing time hurt us, the rest are a bunch of useless bums. So you're saying Zetterberg is a bum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Has anyone actually stopped and thought, "Oh, maybe New York and Buffalo didn't want to trade top players to a team within their conference/division?!" Problem with this argument is the fact that your saying Rangers didn't trade us Gaborik because we will be in the East, ignoring the fact that CBJ will be in their division... Maybe they forgot lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 As I've said, I didn't really want Holland to make a deal for a playoff rental, but it is kind of comical that he says the same things year after year. Not really comical, more retarded at this point. On the plus side, if that post a few up about twitter is true, than I won $20 in a bet from my friend about how Holland would give the same bullsh*t "our guys coming back from injury are our aquisitions" that he says every single year like a f*cking broken record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alienanxiety 23 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Trading Ville Leino for Mattais Backman isn't a good deal? WHO? Was that the nobody the got with the pick, cuz the other nobody Leino was traded for was Ole Kristian Tollefson. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 apparently the Rangers sent back minor-league defensemen Steven Delisle, acquired from Columbus in the Rick Nash trade this summer, and Blake Parlett in an effort to get to the 50-contract limit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Yes, the Kessel trade was bad; but he also fleeced the Flames for Phaneuf, got Lupol and Gardiner for Beauchemin; and though he's gone, his constructed Leafs team is a better team than Holland's Wings right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Behind Enemy Lines in CO 11 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 will anyone realy forgive Holland if he lets Flip walk now and get nothing this summer? I think the Wings strategy around Flip is to wait until FA starts with all the expected salary dumps due to the lower salary cap and let Flip find out that his salary demands will not be met by other teams in this tight fiscal environment. Then they offer him the $4 million and he signs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Maybe since the League wants parity, other teams don't want to trade with the Wings since we've won enough already? Edit: It's a conspiracy! Edited April 3, 2013 by Barrie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 WHO? Was that the nobody the got with the pick, cuz the other nobody Leino was traded for was Ole Kristian Tollefson. lol Mattias Backman is one of our top defensive prospects, he's a 6'2, 20 year old playing in the SEL. He's got a ton of upside, and the hype train is just starting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 I think the Wings strategy around Flip is to wait until FA starts with all the expected salary dumps due to the lower salary cap and let Flip find out that his salary demands will not be met by other teams in this tight fiscal environment. Then they offer him the $4 million and he signs. agree i just hope he doesnt demand 5 million because thats overpayment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Mattias Backman is one of our top defensive prospects, he's a 6'2, 20 year old playing in the SEL. He's got a ton of upside, and the hype train is just starting. So we should see him around 2019 1 anthonyn66 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Are you laughing at the trades where a GM actually picked up good players, or the fact that the Toronto Maple Leafs--a team perpetually mocked on these and other boards--are much, much BETTER than these Red Wings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Yes, the Kessel trade was bad; but he also fleeced the Flames for Phaneuf, got Lupol and Gardiner for Beauchemin; and though he's gone, his constructed Leafs team is a better team than Holland's Wings right now. That's madness. The Kessel trade wasn't bad...it was devastating. If he hadn't made that deal he would almost certainly still have his job today. That deal ruined what would have been a real, true rebuild that the Leafs desperatly needed. The Wings homegrown players and prospects are better than the Leafs right now. Burke did maul the Ducks with that Beauchemin trade though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Well, Holland dropped the ball here. Yes, this is me saying this. Gaborik and Pominville could both have been had for reasonable prices. The only possible explanation I can think of for why this may not have been an option is that Buffalo and NYR wanted players who were not upcoming UFAs or prospects. We don't exactly have many of those to trade away. I guess I'll wait on the official explanation. Edited April 3, 2013 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 I really don't think anyone on here is surprised that the Wings didn't make a move. That same speech that Kenny makes year after year is getting stale though, he needs new material! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 So we should see him around 2019 How's Leino doing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Dumb trade by the Lightning... the Sens fleeced them. I'm happy Holland stood pat-- this Wings roster isn't a trade or two away from winning the Cup this spring. If we can't win now it'd be stupid to pick up rentals. With the cap dropping things will be wild this summer, might as well retain as much flexibility and as many draft pics as we can. 4 Travis, Serratoni, Jericho613 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Means KH has his eye on FA this summer and re-signing our current guys. The Wings will be right up against the cap just re-signing some of our FA's. I wouldn't hold your breath for any free agent signings unless there is a buyout or 2 beforehand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
