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#521 Carman

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:47 PM

Ken Holland doing nothing tells me that he is satisfied with where his team is at or no other GM's were willing to give him their top players. Based on his last three years I am not sure he is the right GM going forward. 

 

Trading Ville Leino for Mattais Backman isn't a good deal? Or how about trading matt Puempel for Tomas Jurco and Xavier Ouellett?

 

How about signing Brunner, or Dekeyser? Or signing Kronwall to a cheap 7 year deal?

 

I'm not saying he's been great. But some of these deals can look a lot better in a few years, he's not fleecing people like the Chelios trade days, but it's a different league now, not a lot of roster player for roster player type trades.

 

Who would be your choice going forward?



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:48 PM

The Pominville trade isn't finalized but some of you are underestimating how much Minnesota just gave up for him.
 
They gave up their SOLID tendy prospect that equals out to Mrazek
They gave up their SOLID center prospect that equals out to Jarnkrok
and now it's heard that it's also a 1st and 2nd round pick.
 
Just allow that to float around if you guys really wanted to give up Mrazek, Jarnkrok, a 1st, and a 2nd for Pominville. I'll just be sitting here calling bulls*** because Mrazek and Jarnkrok would've sent this damn forum into full melt-down mode, none the less the addition to a 1st and 2nd.


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#523 matt198913

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

Lines when they make the playoffs

 

Abby-Dat-Mule

Flip-Z-Cleary

Tartar-Helm-Nyquist

Miller-Sheahan-Tootoo

 

Kronners-Smith

E-Kindl

Deke-Q

 

And if it's not Helm then its Andersson


Edited by matt198913, 03 April 2013 - 02:50 PM.

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#524 b.shanafan14

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

Same ol' song and dance.

 

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Wings were in on 2 or 3 players, felt they made competitive offers, but it wasn't good enough.

 

 

As I've said, I didn't really want Holland to make a deal for a playoff rental, but it is kind of comical that he says the same things year after year.

 

This. Insane how consistent he is. Also, at what point to we realize that "competitive offers" that never EVER work must not be very competitive. I get that we don't want to sell the farm, but I feel like we aren't factoring in "inflation" or something, especially since we aren't exactly the destination we used to be.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:50 PM

Gaborik doesn't have less goals than Cleary... And let me know when Cleary scores 30+ because Gabby will next year.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:51 PM

Gaborik doesn't have less goals than Cleary... And let me know when Cleary scores 30+ because Gabby will next year.

 

Is that before or after Gaborik's odds of his groin/hip/back not holding up?



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:52 PM

@AnsarKhanMLive: Wings had no interest in a struggling Gaborik and his $7.5 million cap hit for next season.

Edit: my bad I have very little service in the tv studio.. Phone lagged posting that

Edited by amato, 03 April 2013 - 02:54 PM.

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#528 Yak19

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:52 PM

Lines when they make the playoffs

 

Abby-Dat-Mule

Flip-Z-Cleary

Tartar-Helm-Nyquist

Miller-Sheahan-Tootoo

 

Kronners-Smith

E-Kindl

Deke-Q

 

And if it's not Helm then its Andersson

 

Like that 4th line

 

Would hate to see Datsyuk having to continue to try to put pucks off of Abdelkader's body in the playoffs



#529 RedWingAbner

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:53 PM

Trading Ville Leino for Mattais Backman isn't a good deal? Or how about trading matt Puempel for Tomas Jurco and Xavier Ouellett?

 

How about signing Brunner, or Dekeyser? Or signing Kronwall to a cheap 7 year deal?

 

I'm not saying he's been great. But some of these deals can look a lot better in a few years, he's not fleecing people like the Chelios trade days, but it's a different league now, not a lot of roster player for roster player type trades.

 

Who would be your choice going forward?

 

Brian Burke. 



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:54 PM

Sounds like the price tag for Vanek. Definitely an overpayment imo. However Gaborik should have been had for the price tag Columbus gave up.

 

Khan said the hold up for the Wings with Gaborik was the $7.5M cap hit next year.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:55 PM

Like that 4th line

 

Would hate to see Datsyuk having to continue to try to put pucks off of Abdelkader's body in the playoffs

Ya know ya gotta give Abby a chance. That shot a couple weeks ago is giving me a different feeling about him. It reminded me of a couple years ago when he went off in Nashville. He's got it all he's just got show it.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:55 PM

its just a shame


try to get something by me i dare you

 

 

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:56 PM

 
Brian Burke. 


Man, I hope your not serious.I would give LGW two weeks before they completely hate that man.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:56 PM

Khan said the hold up for the Wings with Gaborik was the $7.5M cap hit next year.

 

Means KH has his eye on FA this summer and re-signing our current guys.


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#535 Carman

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:56 PM

Brian Burke. 

 

Awesome, Red Wing fans would love giving up the #2 overall pick. and #9 pick.

 

If you think Holland's made some bad trades, yikes.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

will anyone realy forgive Holland if he lets Flip walk now and get nothing this summer?


try to get something by me i dare you

 

 

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

Yes, the Kessel trade was bad; but he also fleeced the Flames for Phaneuf, got Lupol and Gardiner for Beauchemin; and though he's gone, his constructed Leafs team is a better team than Holland's Wings right now.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

will anyone realy forgive Holland if he lets Flip walk now and get nothing this summer?


I bet he signs an extension. Not sure if everyone will agree with the amount but I don't see filp leaving

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

Means KH has his eye on FA this summer and re-signing our current guys.

 

Because holding on to that money for free agency has worked out so well for us in the past few years.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

All the injuries are kind of irrelevant IMO, only Helm and Flipulla missing time hurt us, the rest are a bunch of useless bums.

 

So you're saying Zetterberg is a bum? :tounge:


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