VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 All of these moves make me feel like Holland has given up on making playoffs. I hope I'm just overreacting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) how was dekeyser a recall? Khan called it a "paper move", he was sent down to Grand Rapids in order to give him AHL eligibility, should the Red Wings decide he needs to get in games down there. So Tatar cannot come up at all? Based on Khan's tweets, it doesn't sound like it. Edit: Of course, if the Red Wings should make the playoffs, he can come up. Edited April 3, 2013 by Travis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Khan called it a "paper move", he was sent down to Grand Rapids in order to give him AHL eligibility, should the Red Wings decide he needs to get in games down there. Based on Khan's tweets, it doesn't sound like it. Edit: Of course, if the Red Wings should make the playoffs, he can come up. Well that sucks. I thought Tatar could be up now, cause there is no roster limit anymore. Does anyone know why e can't be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 I'm not understanding this. If the roster expands why can't they have moe players on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 All of these moves make me feel like Holland has given up on making playoffs. I hope I'm just overreacting. The Wings are sitting in a playoff position, so I'm not sure how/why they would be giving up. 1 Greatness=PavelDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 I'm not understanding this. If the roster expands why can't they have moe players on it This exactly. I don't get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshy207 156 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Guys, the reason is given right here, on the first page. Tweet #1 from Khan. If you want to see Tatar before the postseason, hope for more injuries up front. Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 3h Holland said the team exhausted its 4 recalls (also Lashoff) and can no longer recall a player from Griffins, unless it's on emergency basis Expand Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 3h In paper move, Wings sent Andersson, Nyquist, DeKeyser to G. Rapids and then recalled them. Makes them eligible to play for GR going forward Expand i guess we can forget about tatar ....f*ck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Well if we make the playoffs, and everyone is healthy, I would go with this line up.... Filppula - Zetterberg - Brunner Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist Abdelkader - Helm - Tatar Miller - Andersson - Tootoo Scratched Bertuzzi Emmerton Eaves Samuelsson Cleary Kronwall - Ericsson Kindl - DeKeyser Smith - Lashoff Scratched White Quincey Colaiacovo Howard Gustavsson 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 The Wings are sitting in a playoff position, so I'm not sure how/why they would be giving up. Well, they shouldn't. But the teams around us in the standings got better, and the Wings didn't. They will continue to be inconsistent. They probably will still make playoffs. They'd only have to muddle through the rest of the season and hope Columbus doesn't get hot, but if Holland really believed this team was going to do anything he would've made a move. He implied so himself in an earlier interview. We're sitting in the playoffs now, but teams are starting (slightly) to separate, and we keep sliding back. This team this season has lost in pretty much every game when we had a chance to catch up to a higher team or hold off a lower team. I have a hard time picturing this current squad keeping up with the playoff pushes other bubble teams will do. They just don't seem to have that willpower or urgency anymore. Again, we'll probably make playoffs, but Holland didn't make it any easier for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Well if we make the playoffs, and everyone is healthy, I would go with this line up.... Filppula - Zetterberg - Brunner Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist Abdelkader - Helm - Tatar Miller - Andersson - Tootoo Scratched Bertuzzi Emmerton Eaves Samuelsson Cleary Kronwall - Ericsson Kindl - DeKeyser Smith - Lashoff Scratched White Quincey Colaiacovo Howard Gustavsson My ideal lines would be this, but I'd switch z and pavs. Would put Bert in for miller. Also put Quincey in for lashoff. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Well if we make the playoffs, and everyone is healthy, I would go with this line up.... Filppula - Zetterberg - Brunner Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist Abdelkader - Helm - Tatar Miller - Andersson - Tootoo Scratched Bertuzzi Emmerton Eaves Samuelsson Cleary Kronwall - Ericsson Kindl - DeKeyser Smith - Lashoff Scratched White Quincey Colaiacovo Howard Gustavsson You better hope Smith and Lashoff don't get caught in a bad matchup. A dangerous top line would tear them apart. Also, Samuelsson should play over Nyquist. I know we're all high on him here, but he doesn't bring any hustle to the lineup and he hasn't found his scoring touch in the NHL yet. Sammy, for all his flaws, at least generates some offense. And there's a strong argument to be made that Bertuzzi's hands are worth quite a bit on chaotic playoff hockey. 1 Greatness=PavelDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 i dont care we didnt get a big name today i am a little pissed the rookies dont get more of an opportunity you can go on about how they have no experience and are prone to rookie mistakes ... well how else are they gonna learn??? i thought tatar did pretty dam good with all the games imagine if had another 20 games how much better he could of been andersson has never been sent back down and id say hes doing pretty good I agree that they learn by playing but we don't need to be teaching 10 of them at once, A couple this year and a couple next is a far more efficient way to get kids ready to play in the NHL. We have 7 rookies on the team already, there is no reason to carry half the team as rookies unless you are tanking for a lottery pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Well, they shouldn't. But the teams around us in the standings got better, and the Wings didn't. They will continue to be inconsistent. They probably will still make playoffs. They'd only have to muddle through the rest of the season and hope Columbus doesn't get hot, but if Holland really believed this team was going to do anything he would've made a move. He implied so himself in an earlier interview. We're sitting in the playoffs now, but teams are starting (slightly) to separate, and we keep sliding back. This team this season has lost in pretty much every game when we had a chance to catch up to a higher team or hold off a lower team. I have a hard time picturing this current squad keeping up with the playoff pushes other bubble teams will do. They just don't seem to have that willpower or urgency anymore. Again, we'll probably make playoffs, but Holland didn't make it any easier for them. IMO Nashville and San Jose didn't get better this week, LA didn't make a big splash, and the Oilers made a small trade. Only CBJ, Minn, and STL improved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 You guys whine like a bunch of school girls. Embarrasing. 2 Jesusberg and Greatness=PavelDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 I'm not saying Gaborik would get us a Cup, but keep this line to yourself. If you need a goal, are you REALLY relying on Dan Cleary as much as Marian Gaborik? Is Marian Gaborik REALLY equal to Dan Cleary? Come on..... Of course Cleary isn't as good as Gaborik, I was just pointing out that Gaborik is having a terrible year, and at this point we'd have been giving up 3 roster players gambling on a guy who is producing like Dan Cleary, our favorite whipping boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 You better hope Smith and Lashoff don't get caught in a bad matchup. A dangerous top line would tear them apart. Also, Samuelsson should play over Nyquist. I know we're all high on him here, but he doesn't bring any hustle to the lineup and he hasn't found his scoring touch in the NHL yet. Sammy, for all his flaws, at least generates some offense. And there's a strong argument to be made that Bertuzzi's hands are worth quite a bit on chaotic playoff hockey. Nyquist doesn't bring any hustle?? He's always skating hard and ill take him 7 days a week on twice on Sunday over Sammy. He has more speed, skill, and hockey IQ. He may be a little weaker, but his compete level is way better than Sammy 1 Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Nyquist doesn't bring any hustle?? He's always skating hard and ill take him 7 days a week on twice on Sunday over Sammy. He has more speed, skill, and hockey IQ. He may be a little weaker, but his compete level is way better than Sammy Agree 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Nyquist had some great hustle/ethic on that goal he made happen on Monday. 1 Serratoni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 Nyquist had some great hustle/ethic on that goal he made happen on Monday. Yep. Give him more minutes and better linemates and we will see more of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted April 3, 2013 You have to remember that with these guys, they're being shuffled around so much that they can't really get any familiarity with the team. Before we write Gus or Tatar off, let's wait and see what they do with some sustained time on a line. Tatar showed he could be effective on a line with Andersson and Eaves. One of these guys (most likely) will be taking Cleary's spot next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 Yep. Give him more minutes and better linemates and we will see more of that Like when he gave Brunner a beauty of a pass last game and helped him snap a 16 game goal drought. I certainly like that pair. 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 i think we see dekeyser tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 Like when he gave Brunner a beauty of a pass last game and helped him snap a 16 game goal drought. I certainly like that pair. Exactly! Throw those two with pavel, and let Z play with mule and fil! 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 i think we see dekeyser tomorrow I don't think we will. Babs said he isn't just giving him a game unless he thinks the kid gives them a chance to win. No offence but how has DD shown he can be an improvement over our defense yet? This blows for DD because we are trying to squeak into the playoffs and can't really afford to have him fail if he does get a sniff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think we will. Babs said he isn't just giving him a game unless he thinks the kid gives them a chance to win. No offence but how has DD shown he can be an improvement over our defense yet? This blows for DD because we are trying to squeak into the playoffs and can't really afford to have him fail if he does get a sniff. And Ian White improves our chances of winning? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites