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#41 BadgerBob

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:48 PM

And to be honest...I wouldn't mind if we did miss them. I don't see us winning more than a round anyway, although we have the experiance to maybe win two rounds. I would almost rather not make the playoffs and get a real good pick than make it and get bounced immediatly.

 

^THIS. Cups are the only thing that matters. The team doesn't have enough to win a cup unless some guys wake up and have career games from here on out. As much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't mind having a better pick right now.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:51 PM

^THIS. Cups are the only thing that matters. The team doesn't have enough to win a cup unless some guys wake up and have career games from here on out. As much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't mind having a better pick right now.

 

Get in the playoffs and you can win.

 

Howard is an elite goalie, Datsyuk and Zetterberg can dominate. Franzen can get hot. and our depth players are all experienced and good defensively.

Smith/Quincey/Kindl/Lashoff etc. need to step up and play well.

 

It can happen, all of these things are in the realm of possibility. It's not like we need abdelkader to turn into lindros, we just need people to play to their potential, not above it.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:57 PM

maybe van or someone will go on a s***ty streak, its certainly possible, i se at least the blues only pushing us, not as worried about cbj or edm.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

 
Yuck! I could not disagree more with the bolded mentality above.


We're the Detroit Red Wings...first round exits are pathetic, collasal failures. The thing now is, we're not even trying to win the cup. Kenny knows we aren't good and I guess we're supposed to cool with. Well im a spoiled Wings fan and i hate, i hate, first round exits. If we have to suck and accept it we might as well get a good pick instead of losing to the Hawks or something in the first round.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:21 PM

I'll be in Paris when the last few games are played.  I honestly think we'll need to win the last 3 of 4 to get in.  


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:20 PM

We're the Detroit Red Wings...first round exits are pathetic, collasal failures. The thing now is, we're not even trying to win the cup. Kenny knows we aren't good and I guess we're supposed to cool with. Well im a spoiled Wings fan and i hate, i hate, first round exits. If we have to suck and accept it we might as well get a good pick instead of losing to the Hawks or something in the first round.

 

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Fortunately, I'm confident that the Wings ownership, the players, and all the people who work at the Joe agree with me. Go Wings!



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

Ok Leters alleviate some of your fears. Out of the 12 games we have left 8 of them are against inferior opponents. 3 against teams that are 1 point or tied with and 1 with Chicago. I'm going to say they will go 9-3 down the stretch here. Especially if 43 suits up for them after he pushes the back the next couple of days.

 

 

 

My only comment is that we tend to lose to inferior team and do well against better teams ... except for that 7-1 Chicago fiasco.  

 

See what I mean ... Pho 3 Det 1 after 2  :unhappy:



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:07 PM

And to be honest...I wouldn't mind if we did miss them. I don't see us winning more than a round anyway, although we have the experiance to maybe win two rounds. I would almost rather not make the playoffs and get a real good pick than make it and get bounced immediatly.
 

 

I was thinking the same thing. If I was betting on it, I'd put money on the Wings making the playoffs, but if we miss the playoffs (other then my wallet being lighter :lol:), I don't think it's a big deal. I wouldn't mind a mid to high draft pick to add to this young team. Plus it would mean a mid to high 2nd round pick, and we always do really well in the 2nd round.

 

Edit: If people want to see changes, maybe a playoff miss would bring the changes they want?


Edited by Barrie, 04 April 2013 - 11:08 PM.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

Here are the standings at 12:34   EST  (5:20 left in the Wings game)

1 Chicago 58
2 Anaheim 55
3 Minnesota 44
4 Vancouver 44
5 San Jose 44
6 LA 43
7 Detroit 41
8  St Louis 40
9  Edmonton 39
10 Columbus 39
11 Nashville 38
12 Phoenix 26
13 Dallas 35

8 thru 13 are only separated by 5points.  Realistically, if the Wings don’t get going here shortly, and some of these other teams do, we could potentially not see the Wings in the playoffs for the first time in a long time. 
 

Only thing we really have going for us is that a lot of our injured guys should be back in the next week or two, let’s just hope that’s not too late :/

 



I meant 12:24,my bad



#50 fat guy in a maltby jersey

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

they won't make the playoffs.

 

they're done.



#51 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:31 PM

It's very possible we will miss the playoffs.

 

Nothing's changed since the beginning of the season tbh.

 

We either make the playoffs and lose quickly to someone and all the "we will make the playoffs" sayers will have their say.

 

Or

 

We miss the playoffs and of the "we aren't making the playoffs" sayers will have their say.


Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 04 April 2013 - 11:43 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:33 PM

I was thinking the same thing. If I was betting on it, I'd put money on the Wings making the playoffs, but if we miss the playoffs (other then my wallet being lighter :lol:), I don't think it's a big deal. I wouldn't mind a mid to high draft pick to add to this young team. Plus it would mean a mid to high 2nd round pick, and we always do really well in the 2nd round.

 

Edit: If people want to see changes, maybe a playoff miss would bring the changes they want?


Maybe it would put in persepctive that it's younger, faster NHL than before.  I personally don't belive that Cleary, Bert, and Sammy will be back next year. I know some people out there will say but they have that veteran leadership.  But Hank, Pav, Kronner, and Mule have all been down that playoff road and knows what it takes to win,and beside Cleary, Bert and Sammy are old. Bert is most likely the slowest player on the team and has been injury prone that last couple of seasons.  Sammy, same there, he's not like he was back in 08 with our cup run, and Cleary, he's just old . 

It's going to be a very interesting off season for the wings this year...



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

I think missing the playoffs this year is pretty huge deal. We have the longest active playoff streak in pro sports. We would just become some other franchise



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:06 AM

Exactly.

 

If you go to this website they simulate the results of everygame and currently have the Wings at a 72.7% chance to make it. The simulation is based on the teams with the better record beating the teams with the lesser record and it is weighted in favor of the home team.

 

http://www.sportsclu...ts.com/NHL.html

 

Even though Edmonton is in 8th right now, their chance of making it is only 42%.

It is now down to 59.7% to make the playoffs..........................se what I did there? :blind:


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:09 AM

Some GMs I think it the latest was Burke were often quoted saying "whats the point of making the playoffs just get swept in the first round?" and I agree with that. Yes, the unbelievable streak is nice but if an ended streak will lead to a better draft pick and therefore a cornerstone to a rebuild, I'd say go for it.

 

I mean do some guys here really want to see this team getting swept by the archnemesis Chicago Blackhawks? Personally I don't, their tank to win fanbase would brag about it endlessly and given that the Detroit Red Wings are moving to the east next year, there wouldn't even be a chance for revenge anytime soon. I am not trying to be overly pessimistic just a realist thinking longterm.

 

At some point gotta face reality, the big 4 (Hawks, Kings, Blues, Ducks) + even Minnesotta are just superior teams this season.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

It's not the end of the world if the streak ends. All non-playoff teams have a shot at the 1st overall pick, and regardless this would be our highest draft pick since we took Marty Lapointe 10th overall in 1991. I just wish Kenny would've shopped Flip and White and even Quincey. More draft picks and cap space for next season is never a bad thing. Oh well, hopefully he can get something for Q or Flip's right at the draft.



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:53 AM

Playoffs or not, I would highly consider trading 40, 55, and 93 if you can. They're only going to get older and slower moving forward, unfortunately. Move them while they still have value. Decide between 14 and 21, one stays one gets moved. Sign 35 to no more than 2 years. DO SOMETHING DRASTIC..in a good way. 



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:05 AM

It is now down to 59.7% to make the playoffs..........................se what I did there? :blind:

 That was from 72.7% a day ago.  Now sitting at 62.5% right now.  Regardless, that was one big drop in a day!



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:23 AM

Playoffs or not, I would highly consider trading 40, 55, and 93 if you can. They're only going to get older and slower moving forward, unfortunately. Move them while they still have value. Decide between 14 and 21, one stays one gets moved. Sign 35 to no more than 2 years. DO SOMETHING DRASTIC..in a good way. 

 

There are some bad GMs in this league, but I don't think any of them are dumb enough to touch Franzen's contract. And I think trading Z and Kronner is a little excessive with all the promising prospects that could help turn this team back into cup contenders around in 3 or 4 years. I would have loved to see them trade Flip, Q, and White and waive Cleary, get some picks maybe a prospect or two, and see what you really have in Tatar, Nyquist, and DeKeyser. Instead, now you get to watch Flip and White walk out the door for free this summer, and if you don't buy out Franzen and hopefully Samuelsson if he isn't injured, you'll probably end up having to waive Tatar or Nyquist (hopefully they'd waive the right guy this time, not like with Meech and Quincey 4 years ago). You can't keep letting talent walk away for free and still expect to be good, but sadly that's been the Red Wings M.O. since the 2009 cup loss.



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:21 AM

The Blues are about the bounce the Wings down to 8th, they're 1 point behind with two games in hand. Good thing we play them on Sunday, then. Big game at stake. 

 

Also breathing down the Wings' necks...

 

EDM (no games against remaining)

CBJ (no games against remaining)

PHX (game against on 4/22)

NSH (game against on 4/14 and 4/25)

 

I'm not liking this at all.







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