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Ilitch is being cheap with the Wings now that the Tigers are good.


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#41 Jericho613

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

The first thought that went through my head when I read the topic title was "What an ungrateful ******* ***** ** ****."  First, the money that was earmarked for certain players was never necessary; second, there were no viable back up plans; third, the cap was expected to shrink.  Spending up to the cap at that point would have put us in a bad salary dump position; why sign some players only to have to buy them or others out?

Just because the Wings are going through a few speed bumps is no reason to turn on the man who lost millions of his own money for YEARS to keep this team here; spent millions of his own dollars to sign the best talent available and has given back more to his players and this town than any other NHL owner.  I think you owe Mr. I an abject apology.

 

Great post Vladdy16. One crazy 48 game year and some fans turn into spoiled brats, there is only so much you can do as an owner and a gm, now we have people making excuses towards Illitch favoring one team over another. Enough with theses stupid threads  and making excuses. I like this board cuz there are alot of great Wings fans and realistic Wings fans, we all know we aren't gonna contend for a cup but my god, excuses and whining is getting old fast. It will hopefully stop once we make the playoffs.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:56 PM

I don't think Illitch is tightening the purse strings. We've unloaded some big contracts and not had to give any out. UFAs were either overpayments, or potential trades wanted draft picks.

Plus, the cap is dropping next year. They pulled out all the stops to get Surer, I think Holland is just being cautious.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 12:26 AM

This is a terribly thought out topic. First off, Illitch's first love is baseball. Second, I doubt he has any bias over any of the franchises he owns. When there was no cap, he built the Red Wings like he's building the Tigers now. The NHL is salary capped and in terms of trading, you gotta have what other teams want, and have to stay within salary requirements. Whatever your team, 4 Stanley Cups, 2 world Series appearances, 1 NBA championship, plus we also get to watch the extremely over produced, over hyped American spectacle version of a watered down rugby sport that is Football (which has included 2 of the best offensive players ever in Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders,) us Detroit sports fans have been pretty blessed over the last 20 years. 



#44 frankgrimes

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:34 AM

Granted and it is sad, I've never met Ilitch but let me tell you what kind of owner I think this guy is:

 

Ilitch is one of the only owners in this piss poor communism league, who stood up against the revenue-sharing, not happy with the lockout and guess he is the one, spending millions of his own money on the best available development coaches, over the top hotels and services (Wing Bird III anyone?!). Without the cap I'd bet my car Mr. I would spend whatever it takes to provide the team with near endless resources if it means another cup!

 

Ilitch is a competitive guy, he wants all his teams to do well and therefore will be spending. Having said that, there is no point in overpaying for average-players just for the sake of spending money, this would be just stupid.

 

So while everyone is entitled to his own opinion, I for one can't thank Mike enough for being the best owner in not only hockey but all of sports. An example of an owner playing it poor although filthy rich would be the guy who bought Manchester United (soccerclub), as his private toy. 


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 12:28 PM

Vladdy16 hits the nail in the head. Wings fans have been spoiled for decades with Illitch. Those who were here for the lean years before can fully appreciate it. Those who've only been fans since the "boom years" can't fully appreciate what we have as Wings fans. I've said it before about how NO GM in the league is going to give Detroit a break in a deal and be responsible for helping them get back on top. Decades of low draft picks, high amounts of man games lost to injury, the tragic ends to the careers of Konstantinov and Fischer... it's truly amazing the Wings have been able to succeed as long as they have. This is a down year in a big way and they are STILL in contention for a playoff spot.

I'm NOT saying long-time fans are better, but folks need some perspective. Illitch has been the model owner for an NHL franchise in many ways.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 12:32 PM

Vladdy16 hits the nail in the head. Wings fans have been spoiled for decades with Illitch. Those who were here for the lean years before can fully appreciate it. Those who've only been fans since the "boom years" can't fully appreciate what we have as Wings fans. I've said it before about how NO GM in the league is going to give Detroit a break in a deal and be responsible for helping them get back on top. Decades of low draft picks, high amounts of man games lost to injury, the tragic ends to the careers of Konstantinov and Fischer... it's truly amazing the Wings have been able to succeed as long as they have. This is a down year in a big way and they are STILL in contention for a playoff spot.

I'm NOT saying long-time fans are better, but folks need some perspective. Illitch has been the model owner for an NHL franchise in many ways.


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

LOL. Illitch isn't being cheap. Holland is saving space to make the right move when it presents itself.



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:28 AM

So while everyone is entitled to his own opinion, I for one can't thank Mike enough for being the best owner in not only hockey but all of sports. An example of an owner playing it poor although filthy rich would be the guy who bought Manchester United (soccerclub), as his private toy. 

 

You might meant Roman Abramovich the owner of Chelsea. That little Russian treats the club like a 5 year old treats Legos. Thank god Mr I isnt anywhere near like that guy. The Glazers who own Man U dont mettle to much in Alex Fergusons running of the team. The big kerfuffle with them was how they took over Man U and how the supporters didn't want American ownership. 







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