Mors 201 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I guess this is kind of a needless rant post, but is this guy for real? I saw today that he didn't practice again because he has a "sore pectoral muscle." Have some pride man...there are guys out there who play with broken bones, I mean cleary basically skates on one leg. Step it up and help the team or good riddance. 4 The Secret, wingslogo19, DatsyukianDekes and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedWingsDad Report post Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) I guess this is kind of a needless rant post, but is this guy for real? I saw today that he didn't practice again because he has a "sore pectoral muscle." Have some pride man...there are guys out there who play with broken bones, I mean cleary basically skates on one leg. Step it up and help the team or good riddance. Are YOU for real? Playing with a sore pec would mean playing with some discomfort. Completely unacceptable from where I am sitting. Edited April 11, 2013 by RedWingsDad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 let him sit with a sore brain for all I care, get Tatar from gr, and buyout sammy. I didn't like the signing when kenny made it, but I figured lets give him a chance, but the guy can't play more than a game without getting hurt, him and colaiacovo are really milking Mr. I for every penny 2 13dangledangle and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arag 308 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Samuelson and Cola are the "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" of ice hockey. That is it ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I know he hasn't played much and it's not fair to judge him based on that, but he has really, really....sucked...when he has played. So I don't care if he sits out a broken nail, it's not hurting us as much as it seems to hurt us when he's actually playing. And if he needs a couple of games to 'get his legs back' or whatever, we don't have that time to spare. We need everyone in the lineup the last 9 games to be contributing and helping us win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonFlame 424 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) You aren't him. You don't know how bad it is. Give him the benefit of the doubt. He is a professional after all. And also we've seen how Cleary skates with a broken leg. It's not helping the team in any way. Edited April 11, 2013 by CrimsonFlame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielsm 244 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 It's like Holland is paying Sammy to fake being injured all year so the younger players can play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 You aren't him. You don't know how bad it is. Give him the benefit of the doubt. He is a professional after all. And also we've seen how Cleary skates with a broken leg. It's not helping the team in any way. I'd be happy to give him the benefit of the doubt for the groin, the finger, the shoulder, the pec muscle...but I'm sorry man, you only get so many passes. He's contributed nothing this season except for a drain on the payroll. I agree with the other posters in this thread though, if Babock wanted him to play, I imagine he'd suck it up. This ongoing rash of minor injuries tells me management doesn't care about getting him back into the lineup. 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I'd be happy to give him the benefit of the doubt for the groin, the finger, the shoulder, the pec muscle...but I'm sorry man, you only get so many passes. He's contributed nothing this season except for a drain on the payroll. I agree with the other posters in this thread though, if Babock wanted him to play, I imagine he'd suck it up. This ongoing rash of minor injuries tells me management doesn't care about getting him back into the lineup. That hopefully means a buyout in the summer. 2 dirtydangles and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) I think some of you are missing the point. The guy's had, like, 25 different injuries in the past 3-4 months. And he's played all of, what, two games? And in those games... . And he was brought back to the fold because he was considered a sure bet, a safe move, reliable, rugged, gritty, durable, etc. Holland even gave him an NTC. "Oh, come on, how could they have known he'd have such bad luck this season?" Well, he's had injury problems in the past, and he's older than ever (35 or 36), and this is - as George Malik puts it - a demolition derby of a season... Edited April 11, 2013 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted April 11, 2013 It's like Holland is paying Sammy to fake being injured all year so the younger players can play. Holland doesn't know what he's doing. Praise was just not worth 2 million more. Uggggg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I'm sorry, but a sore pectoral muscle? That shouldn't impact skating. I know for a fact that many players (Stevie Y) played though far far worse than a sore chest. Its not that unreasonable to poke fun at him for sitting for such a small discomfort. I don't see how Ken Holland can afford to keep Sammy for another year. He has been the biggest waste of a roster spot ever and screams amnesty buyout. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I'm sorry, but a sore pectoral muscle? That shouldn't impact skating. I know for a fact that many players (Stevie Y) played though far far worse than a sore chest. Its not that unreasonable to poke fun at him for sitting for such a small discomfort. I don't see how Ken Holland can afford to keep Sammy for another year. He has been the biggest waste of a roster spot ever and screams amnesty buyout reclamation project. Fixed. We shouldn't kid ourselves. We all know he's coming back next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 who? 2 redwings15 and Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Holland doesn't know what he's doing. Praise was just not worth 2 million more. Uggggg Stop. Praise didn't want to come to Detroit. Just frickin stop with that garbage. You act like Holland can force players to come to Detroit, he can't. Players can pick where they go and Praise wanted Minnesota, nothing you can do about it except sit there and cry. 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 i said this when Holland re-signed sammy. i had a feeling similar to when Holland re-signed Jason williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WINGS & FLOW 25 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Holland doesn't know what he's doing. Praise was just not worth 2 million more. UgggggSo you think he was going to sign with Detroit for only 2mil more? Didnt he get over 7.5mil until the year 2025? No thanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 i said this when Holland re-signed sammy. i had a feeling similar to when Holland re-signed Jason williams. Was Jason Williams coming off a .57 ppg season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 What a waste of money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BleedRed&White25 36 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I mean, no one saw this coming; its unfortunate for both parties involved. If Sammy is bought out this summer, will a portion of his contract still count against the cap? Or does the definition of an amnesty buyout mean that there is no penalty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I mean, no one saw this coming; its unfortunate for both parties involved. If Sammy is bought out this summer, will a portion of his contract still count against the cap? Or does the definition of an amnesty buyout mean that there is no penalty? I wouldn't go that far, he's had injury troubles in the past. But he was worth the risk. We didn't risk anything signing him, he was the best option at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Ohh, I've got a rosebud in ma diaper. I dunna think I can play tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSM 114 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Was Jason Williams coming off a .57 ppg season? Close. Williams averaged .5875 PPG the season before he came back to the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted April 11, 2013 I'm perfectly fine with Sammy not coming back and utilizing the buyout on him this summer. His impact would be minimal anyways even if he could stay healthy and it probably also knocks Nyquist out of the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted April 11, 2013 Depending how sore the pec is it can be a very difficult injury to play with. Personally, I'd rather have a healthy guy in there than someone like Cleary who is a total waste of space out on the ice the past two seasons. Yzerman missed a ton of games due to injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites