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#521 Hockeytown0001

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:18 AM

Holland locked up Howard at least.

He had a bad game. It happens. There was one this winningest goalie of all time who allowed six goals in a Game 7 of the Conference Finals at one point. 


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:18 AM



 
I do not understand what point you are trying to make/argue here. I literally agreed with you that we need more goals, but I am speaking to the people who are talking about how terrible we played tonight, simply put we played well but we still lost yes, saying we played like crap is wrong, because we did not. There are no moral victories or what have you, there are facts however, and the fact is we didn't play bad, and we were all over calgary for the majority of the game, but we did not score enough to overcome a few mistakes that were made

 
You're going to have a hard time convincing people we didn't play terribly when two Detroit f*** ups led to two Calgary goals.  We also had a load of power plays which we couldn't convert on, and we were completely lackluster in every other facet of the game.  The fact that they were as lackluster offensively and defensively doesn't mean we weren't terrible...we were.  They were just bad enough to make our utterly ineffective team look like it was doing something productive. 

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Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

I don't even understand how Howard f-ed up twice in a row. I don't even know what to say about it. 

 

Don't care about Howard having a terrible game. Wings would be sitting in 11th or 12th without him. In a must win and considering the opposition the Wings should of had a stranglehold of this game after the first 20 minutes..... end of story.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

 

One goal pinballed around off howie, complete dumb luck for calgary and terrible luck for us, and the other goal was just poor decision making by the entire team, but aside from that I think we played good.

 

Not dumb luck.  How many times does the goalie stop the puck for the defenseman to pickup?  A million times a game?  It's a routine play that they bobbled, bumbled, and ultimately got scored on.  Luck had nothing to do with it.  Execution did. 

 

 

Also, good teams that play good rise to the occasion in "must win" situations.  They score on one of their million powerplay chances.  They beat the worst team in the conference.  They do lots of things.  What they don't do is commit a litany of mental errors which ultimately give the game to the opposition on a night when their main competitors for the playoffs beat the second best team in the conference in a nearly identical situation.


Edited by kipwinger, 18 April 2013 - 12:24 AM.

GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:25 AM

I am way to tired to argue, so kip, and everyone else, lets agree to disagree, we can all agree that we needed the win and didn't get it, I gotta be up in 4 hours, and wish I hadn't even stayed up for this game...



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:26 AM

Yeah so in the one of the first posts of this thread I warned of Kiprusoff stealing the game. Yeah. As fluky as Begin's goals were, he has three less than 5 million dollar man Val Filppula. Pathetic. And yet Columbus can go into a tough barn and earn two points whilst this sad sack team has pissed away six potential points against one of the bottom feeders of the conference.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:26 AM

I am way to tired to argue, so kip, and everyone else, lets agree to disagree, we can all agree that we needed the win and didn't get it, I gotta be up in 4 hours, and wish I hadn't even stayed up for this game...

 

Fair enough, have a good one bud. 


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:26 AM

 

Not dumb luck.  How many times does the goalie stop the puck for the defenseman to pickup?  A million times a game?  It's a routine play that they bobbled, bumbled, and ultimately got scored on.  Luck had nothing to do with it.  Execution did. 

 

 

Also, good teams that play good rise to the occasion in "must win" situations.  They score on one of their million powerplay chances.  They beat the worst team in the conference.  They do lots of things.  What they don't do is commit a litany of mental errors which ultimately give the game to the opposition on a night when their main competitors for the playoffs beat the second best team in the conference in a nearly identical situations.

 

Good teams beat teams that are asking to be beat.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:28 AM

 

Don't care about Howard having a terrible game. Wings would be sitting in 11th or 12th without him. In a must win and considering the opposition the Wings should of had a stranglehold of this game after the first 20 minutes..... end of story.

 

Well eleventh is the same as ninth.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:29 AM

 

Well eleventh is the same as ninth.

 

if you don't make the playoffs, 11th is better then 9th, better picks



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:32 AM

 

Well eleventh is the same as ninth.

 

If they were 11th or 12th they would not even have a shot at the playoffs they still do because of Howard although i don't believe they are a playoff team and Howard is the last person in the overall season that should be blamed.

 

Columbus and Dallas are better teams at the moment though, better chemistry, more energy, and just determination to make it. Wings have none of those it is just Datsyuk, Howard, Zetterberg(i guess) and a whole lot of turds staining up the winged wheel.


Edited by Yak19, 18 April 2013 - 12:35 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:33 AM

 

if you don't make the playoffs, 11th is better then 9th, better picks

That's obviously true, but that's unfair to put on Howie, which is where this stream of comments came from.  If he's played well enough to boost them 2 spots, you don't say, "well, he should have sucked because then we'd get better draft picks".  You say, "where the hell was the rest of the team to boost us into 8th?"

 

I'm still pissed at him for this game though.


Edited by Zetts, 18 April 2013 - 12:34 AM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:16 AM

Sorry but this one is on Howie ... 2 brain farts ... how could you mishandle that after the 1st blunder!

First goal was definitely on Ericsson. It was he that mishandled the puck that was poke checked by Begin via Howard's skates. He should have been more careful. Second is on Howard although he was abandoned by his teammates.

Edited by RyanBarnes!, 18 April 2013 - 01:16 AM.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:23 AM

it'll all get sorted out in the offseason..................................I hope!


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:42 AM

Can someone explain to me why Dan Cleary gets to play with NHL players? On the ice? Really?


Are you kidding? Block you? And miss watching you stumble around the forum looking for an argument like a dog sniffing butts? It would be like turning off a bad episode of Jerry Springer. You know you shouldn't be watching, but you just... can't... help... it...

#536 TheOwl

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:50 AM

The Wings can't score. The quality of scoring chances is appauling. No one finishes. Howard had a bad game, but how many times does he bail us out? We rarely give him any breaks. He can't be 100% every night, especially when there is so much pressure on him because we can't score.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:35 AM

The Wings can't score. The quality of scoring chances is appauling. No one finishes. Howard had a bad game, but how many times does he bail us out? We rarely give him any breaks. He can't be 100% every night, especially when there is so much pressure on him because we can't score.

 

Well there is a certain Swedish guy who can make 47 saves, following that up with 45 ..and and 40 you get the idea? Not to piss on Howard but top goalies are at the top of their game, when the team is needing it the most.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:41 AM

great game howard!

 

i dont see the wings regaining a playoff spot after a performance like that



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:04 AM

I still don't understand why Babcock changes the lineup every game??? It's no wonder the defense can't ever be on the same page. I honestly feel the Kenny H and Babcock don't want to make the playoffs just because of draft position and maybe having a true reason to do a roster overhaul. Kenny makes zero moves with cap space and Babcock continues to screw with the line combos!!!!

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:19 AM

Went to bed after the second goal figured they were toast after I go no I don't by Jimmy

 

Disappointed yes think had a few bounces go our way the first period totally different game but you also make your bounces by busting your hind end.

 

I am worried that this team has a SEVERE lack of heart on the bench and on the ice and I don't see that situation clearing whether we make the playoffs or not.


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