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#21 Sabaton617

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:42 PM

Could be really good news especially if we need him in a shootout after our last shootout performances.



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:21 PM

Ken Daniels was talking about Sammy being ready tomorrow... we'll see what Babcock does. He sure talks a lot about playing the best.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:28 PM

eaves cant be scratched hes one of our PKers



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 11:00 PM

oh i hope so! I'll be at that game :)



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:53 AM

If he comes back he needs to be in Abdelkader's "spot". Abdelkader after nearly a season with Dats is on pace for an impressive 20 point season (if the season was 82 games), which means, playing with Dats hes regressed from last seasons 22 points.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:09 AM

Without reading the thread tbh.

 

I don't want him in the lineup.

lol, seriously? 



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:26 AM

Bertuzzi won't be in game shape. That worries me. He'd have to start on the 4th line to minimize his minutes. I'd almost rather he wait til playoffs. Then again, we need his puck control.

 

He'll be alright the first game - players are usually flying on adrenaline the first game back.  It'll be the next 2 games were he'll look out of shape.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:11 AM

Babcock deserves to be fired, he is such an idiot.  His lines make no sense and now he wants to insert an old slow player, who missed so much time and has a bad back into the line up when you need to win?  

 

His defensive parings suck and Bertuzzi only helps in Shootouts and we are past the part of the season where we need to care about shootouts.  They need to win in regulation at least a couple of times. Need to get five of six points and two ROW to make it. 

 

Does anyone REALLY think that putting Bertuzzi in right now will make the difference?  He MIGHT be an improvement over Tootoo, but you know Babcock will likely put him in the top two lines and bench Gustav because he seems to do that all the time.  I just don't think you want to put him in right now.  He can't be in shape enough, and being -1 in the last three games could be enough to keep the Wings out of the playoffs.   This isn't a good idea. 


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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

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#29 evilzyme

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:27 AM

Babcock deserves to be fired, he is such an idiot.  His lines make no sense and now he wants to insert an old slow player, who missed so much time and has a bad back into the line up when you need to win?  

 

His defensive parings suck and Bertuzzi only helps in Shootouts and we are past the part of the season where we need to care about shootouts.  They need to win in regulation at least a couple of times. Need to get five of six points and two ROW to make it. 

 

Does anyone REALLY think that putting Bertuzzi in right now will make the difference?  He MIGHT be an improvement over Tootoo, but you know Babcock will likely put him in the top two lines and bench Gustav because he seems to do that all the time.  I just don't think you want to put him in right now.  He can't be in shape enough, and being -1 in the last three games could be enough to keep the Wings out of the playoffs.   This isn't a good idea. 

 

Wow, overreaction? Babcock himself was the one that said that he wasn't even sure if Bertuzzi would play when he was cleared. Babcock said that he didn't want to mess with a good thing, and that he was giving ice-time to those who were going to help get the wins. You don't know Babcock's intentions, so I would refrain from jumping to conclusions and calling him an idiot.

 

Bertuzzi looked like he was in the best shape of recent years at the beginning of this season, and during their mini-"training camp." He has been skating, but that doesn't translate to game shape ready. He could be absolutely slow, but he does hold on to the puck better than majority of what we have in this lineup; which would help translate to longer possession times and more sustained pressure in the other zone. 

 

Personally, I think the defensive pairings have been the best they have been all year. Kronner and Ericsson seem to be an okay pairing to help shut down top lines. They certainly aren't the 1-2 punch you want from your top pairing, but they've been getting it done. Smitty and Quincey have been playing together for the majority of the season now, and starting to gel together. There was much Quincey hate in the beginning of the year, but he's made some great plays in recent games. Smith has been bad, there's no denying that. It's also been expected that he would make numerous mistakes this season. Still doesn't mean it's right. He is an offensive defensemen that struggles in his own zone. He needs to be more effective with the transition and knowing when, what is acceptable, in given situations. All within time I suppose. DeKeyser and Kindl have been the shining bunch. Kindl completely became who we wanted him, and made numerous strides to becoming an NHL defensemen. DeKeyser made the transition to the big show more smooth than i've seen in recent times. The man has been a godsend for this team.

 

I don't see Babcock sending Goose back down. He has said how effective he has been, how outstanding the Goose-Andy-Brunns line has been. For the past few games, he has stated that it has been their hardest and most effective line out there. I just can't see him splitting that up in critical games like this.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:49 AM

A lot of different responses here haha, but the first thing that came to my mind is this...We are now in PLAYOFF hockey, we need THREE lines that score and ONE line that smashes down the other opponent.  

 

    Brunner       Dats                Zetterberg

    Filppulla       Franzen          Tatar (possible?)       

    Nyquist         Andersson      Sammy

    Tootoo         Abdelkader     Bertuzzi


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:51 AM

Yes to Bert, no thanks on Samuelsson. If one is healthy enough to play, then I think Eaves/Tootoo will rotate in. I have a bad feeling if both were back though that would mean Nyquist gets scratched. I would like to see Bertuzzi with Franzen and Filppula. Bert can retrieve and hang on to the puck far better than Cleary.
 
 
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:51 AM

A lot of different responses here haha, but the first thing that came to my mind is this...We are now in PLAYOFF hockey, we need THREE lines that score and ONE line that smashes down the other opponent.  

 

    Brunner       Dats                Zetterberg

    Filppulla       Franzen          Tatar (possible?)       

    Nyquist         Andersson      Sammy

    Tootoo         Abdelkader     Bertuzzi

Would love this lineup but as we have seen for some reason babs likes to sit tootoo when the other team is gritty and tough....I still have not figured that one out.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:04 AM

Would love this lineup but as we have seen for some reason babs likes to sit tootoo when the other team is gritty and tough....I still have not figured that one out.

I know?!  But when we acquired Tootoo I thought one of the reason's was our lack of that type of guy, and especially in the playoff's.  I would just like to know when Babs looks at a list of guys what he see's...


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:09 AM

I think it may have something to do with Tootoo having to sit off the ice for 5 minutes. It forces Babcock to change up lines, and others to eat the minutes. Add that on top of his lackluster defense, you can see why Babcock benches him. He'd rather have the PK'er (Eaves) out there against teams that we need the PK on. Tootoo has brought another dimension to the team, but he can find himself out of position while trying to finish checks. He has done his job, as assigned though. 


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:10 AM

A lot of different responses here haha, but the first thing that came to my mind is this...We are now in PLAYOFF hockey, we need THREE lines that score and ONE line that smashes down the other opponent.  

 

    Brunner       Dats                Zetterberg

    Filppulla       Franzen          Tatar (possible?)       

    Nyquist         Andersson      Sammy

    Tootoo         Abdelkader     Bertuzzi

 

Wait where is our whipping boy.....Danny C!!

 

I can't watch a game without him in the lineup making me scream and yell at my TV just wouldn't feel normal.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:17 AM

Bertuzzi has a knack for coming in cold and scoring, there's no reason not to play him.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:19 AM

It would be nice to see that #44 back at the Joe!


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:04 AM

lol, seriously? 


Not everybody thinks this guy should be playing over our younger guys. I wouldn't give Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson, or White a sniff if I was the coach. But Babs can't just bench the guys Holland signs.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:16 AM

say what you will about bertuzzi, but if he had been playing in those shootout losses, maybe the wings wouldn't be fighting for their playoff lives right now.

 

imagine if the wings' playoff hopes rest on a shooutout in dallas on the 27th.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:19 AM

say what you will about bertuzzi, but if he had been playing in those shootout losses, maybe the wings wouldn't be fighting for their playoff lives right now.
 
imagine if the wings' playoff hopes rest on a shooutout in dallas on the 27th.


He's better than Flip in the shootout.





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