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#61 kickazz

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:42 PM

 

He can do a lot, but even Z can't retro-win the Calder!  He should have a Selke by now.  That guy is a witch on D.

Eh... Datsyuk steals his thunder with Selke. Z is decent as a defensive forward. I'd say top 10 in that regard, maybe even top 5.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:20 AM

To me what separates captains like Stevie Y. & Zetterberg is willing the team to win. Stevie Y left a tall task. He will the Wings to win. Gave out hits took hits. Got down to block shots. Helped all the lines in practice.

 

Zetterberg is a good captain. When he does what Yzerman did day in & day out he'll be a great capitain.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

Eh... Datsyuk steals his thunder with Selke. Z is decent as a defensive forward. I'd say top 10 in that regard, maybe even top 5.

 

Zetterberg is the player they use to shut down opponents(Ie. Crosby, Perry etc.)

 

Zetterberg is just as effective of defensive player than anyone in the league, he just isn't a true center, so like many wingers he doesn't nearly get the credit he deserves.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:31 AM

 

Zetterberg is the player they use to shut down opponents(Ie. Crosby, Perry etc.)

 

Zetterberg is just as effective of defensive player than anyone in the league, he just isn't a true center, so like many wingers he doesn't nearly get the credit he deserves.

 

 

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Datsyuk is flashier, Z will never make the kinda plays Datsyuk does however when Babcock needs somebody to shut a guy down he goes with Z. This is a great problem to have so this isn't a Dats vs Z thing.

 

I love to watch Z in the zone, his stick work and positioning is so good, Datsyuk's stick work is obviously even better but that s*** ain't even human.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:14 PM

 

Zetterberg is the player they use to shut down opponents(Ie. Crosby, Perry etc.)

 

Zetterberg is just as effective of defensive player than anyone in the league, he just isn't a true center, so like many wingers he doesn't nearly get the credit he deserves.

Agreed.

 

Dats deserves his own award, for being a magician or something.

 

But writers love stats and Dats puts up good offensive numbers while being at or near the top in takeaways.  I'm not saying Dats shouldn't win a Selke, it's just a shame Zetterberg probably won't in his career because he is the better shut down forward, which is closer to the original intention of the award. 



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:10 AM

To me what separates captains like Stevie Y. & Zetterberg is willing the team to win. Stevie Y left a tall task. He will the Wings to win. Gave out hits took hits. Got down to block shots. Helped all the lines in practice.

 

Zetterberg is a good captain. When he does what Yzerman did day in & day out he'll be a great capitain.

10 points in the last 4 games to end the regular season and have us not just make the playoffs, but finish 7th.  And then in the 1st round of the playoffs when we were down 3 games to 2, Z had 2 goals and 1 assist including the game winner in the 1st elimination game as Captain and then had 2 more points in game 7.  Z is in no way Yzerman, but I would call him a great leader and the Wings wouldn't have groomed him for the C if they didn't think he was too. 


Edited by Z Winged Dangler, 17 May 2013 - 08:13 AM.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

Eh... Datsyuk steals his thunder with Selke. Z is decent as a defensive forward. I'd say top 10 in that regard, maybe even top 5.

Top 10 in the world is a lot better than decent in my  books



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:11 PM

2 assists today and effectively shut down toews. Didn't just shut him down, he made his inner whiner come out for the first time in his career. Keep it up Z!!!!

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:17 PM

Agreed.

 

Dats deserves his own award, for being a magician or something.

 

But writers love stats and Dats puts up good offensive numbers while being at or near the top in takeaways.  I'm not saying Dats shouldn't win a Selke, it's just a shame Zetterberg probably won't in his career because he is the better shut down forward, which is closer to the original intention of the award. 

 

Well...the regular season doesn't often require Z to play a shut down role.  He does however have a Conn Smythe for his efforts, which I think is more prestigious.


Edited by kook_10, 18 May 2013 - 10:18 PM.


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#70 kickazz

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 11:10 PM

 

Zetterberg is the player they use to shut down opponents(Ie. Crosby, Perry etc.)

 

Zetterberg is just as effective of defensive player than anyone in the league, he just isn't a true center, so like many wingers he doesn't nearly get the credit he deserves.

 

 

 

X1000

 

Datsyuk is flashier, Z will never make the kinda plays Datsyuk does however when Babcock needs somebody to shut a guy down he goes with Z. This is a great problem to have so this isn't a Dats vs Z thing.

 

I love to watch Z in the zone, his stick work and positioning is so good, Datsyuk's stick work is obviously even better but that s*** ain't even human.

Nobody refuting any of you. While it is true that Zetterberg is the guy babs goes to when it comes to shutting down the other teams star players, it's also true of what I said in my initial post, which was "Datsyuk steals his thunder with Selke" Some else said that they give award based on stats. Unfortunately this is the reason Z may never win the award. Perhaps when Datsyuk retires or if Toews/Bergeron gets injured he will.

 

Top 10 in the world is a lot better than decent in my  books

Top 3 in my books are elite. Top 10 are great. Z is elite in playoffs; decent in season. Then again, that's cuz of his own personal game. He focuses more on backchecking during playoffs. Nothing wrong with that.







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