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#41 VM1138

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 09:41 AM

Missed the game, but it sounds like Smith was terrible.  The offense could probably be fixed by splitting Datsyuk and Z up, on paper that second line we started the game with looked pretty bad, I think it was Flip-Franzen-Cleary?

 

I listened to the last period on the radio, and it sounded like Smith was out there all the time.  It won't help his confidence to get torn apart.  If Babs doesn't sit him, the least he can do is limit his minutes.  I almost think White should come back in.  I worry he's too rusty, but there's not a way we can rearrange the defensive lines, which I think are more important at this point.

 

If you move Smith down, then you end up with Quincey and Kindl again.  If you move Colaiacovo up, you end up with Kindl-Smith.  White would add some stability at least.  Smith's jitters are just too costly at this point.  

 

If they are going to dress Carcillo, we need to dress Tootoo, though I understand why he hasn't played recently.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:03 AM

I thought Smith was extremely nervous for the first 2 periods. Actually looked pretty good in the third. Cleary and Abby were our best players until Clearly list his coverage on Oduya in the third. Bert was no where to be found. Mule had some decent shifts. Give them an extra day off and I expect a better effort than game 1
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:46 AM

Kenny"s MO this summer should be to get a solid veteran stay-at-home guy to pair with Smith if they have any interest in developing him properly. If not, trade him.

 

But yeah, something like this:

 

Kronwall - Ericsson

Kindl - DeKeyser

Smith - Scuderi

 

Quincey would have to be moved.


Edited by rick zombo, 16 May 2013 - 10:47 AM.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:59 AM

 

 

they work just fine together, but we don't have a second line with them together, that is what doesn't work.

 

Not true. They nearly produce nothin during the Anaheim series. Never enough altough they had to neutralize Getzlaf and Perry. They scored only on the PP. But what happened in Game 7 when Babcock separated them? Pav played much better because he need two grinders who win the board battles for him. Z-line scored twice.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:32 PM

Tatar - Eaves - Tootoo should all be playing while Sammy, Bert, and Cleary take a seat. 



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:44 PM

Think the lineup is as good as its gonna get just some minor tweaking and the team showing up and competing would go a long way. Move Kindl up and replace Smith. Kindl played great for the most part last night. Smith is still probably a better option than White and Lashoff but he needs less ice time it would probably help his confidence not turning over the puck 3 times per shift. If he can string together a few nice shifts playing less minutes he may be able to dig himself out of this hole he dug. If not, put White in.

Also, our forwards terrible puck support made our defense look real bad. Left them out to dry which in turn left Howard out to dry. Our forwards as a group played their worst hockey of the playoffs last night

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:03 PM

 

Not true. They nearly produce nothin during the Anaheim series. Never enough altough they had to neutralize Getzlaf and Perry. They scored only on the PP. But what happened in Game 7 when Babcock separated them? Pav played much better because he need two grinders who win the board battles for him. Z-line scored twice.

For the record, it was Franzen-Filppula-Cleary that was matched up against Getzlaf and Perry for the majority of that series. Pav and Hank were together in Game 6, which was arguably their best game. They were also separated for the majority of Game 1 against Chicago.

 

The lines can work either way, or they can fail either way.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:36 PM

Cleary shouldn't be on the second line


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

I think they found out last night that their best chance is with Hank and Pav split.  They need the depth too badly playing such a deep team like Chicago.  I also would love to see Tootoo come in for Cleary.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:58 PM

I couldn't believe it when Cleary opted for the dropback pass instead of the close in shot on the gaping five hole. Nyquist or Tatar would have drilled it home.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

I couldn't believe it when Cleary opted for the dropback pass instead of the close in shot on the gaping five hole. Nyquist or Tatar would have drilled it home.

 

even lilja would have drilled that home



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:57 PM

Tootoo is too likely to get penalized, rightly or wrongly so We can't stop Chicagos PP.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:02 AM

Kenny"s MO this summer should be to get a solid veteran stay-at-home guy to pair with Smith if they have any interest in developing him properly. If not, trade him.

 

But yeah, something like this:

 

Kronwall - Ericsson

Kindl - DeKeyser

Smith - Scuderi

 

Quincey would have to be moved.

 I like it.  I mentioned Scuderi a couple months ago in some thread.  He's a solid Dman and would fit well here.  We should definitely target more forwards, but he'd be welcome here in my books.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 09:49 AM

Kenny"s MO this summer should be to get a solid veteran stay-at-home guy to pair with Smith if they have any interest in developing him properly. If not, trade him.

 

But yeah, something like this:

 

Kronwall - Ericsson

Kindl - DeKeyser

Smith - Scuderi

 

Quincey would have to be moved.

 

 

 I like it.  I mentioned Scuderi a couple months ago in some thread.  He's a solid Dman and would fit well here.  We should definitely target more forwards, but he'd be welcome here in my books.

 

 

Scuderi is a solid D-man and I wouldn't mind him on the Wings either, but I'd be surprised if the Kings didn't re-sign him.  Mitchell may very well be done because of his knee so the Kings would need Scuderi even more.

 

Plus Scuderi is basically the #3 guy on the Kings.  I doubt he'd slot in the #6 spot for Detroit.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

 

 

 

 

Scuderi is a solid D-man and I wouldn't mind him on the Wings either, but I'd be surprised if the Kings didn't re-sign him.  Mitchell may very well be done because of his knee so the Kings would need Scuderi even more.

 

Plus Scuderi is basically the #3 guy on the Kings.  I doubt he'd slot in the #6 spot for Detroit.

 

Yeah, I doubt Scuderi would move from LA either. I just used him as an example. Any veteran under 35 that plays a solid stay-at-home game would do.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:29 AM

 

 

 

 

Scuderi is a solid D-man and I wouldn't mind him on the Wings either, but I'd be surprised if the Kings didn't re-sign him.  Mitchell may very well be done because of his knee so the Kings would need Scuderi even more.

 

Plus Scuderi is basically the #3 guy on the Kings.  I doubt he'd slot in the #6 spot for Detroit.

True, but Babcock never keeps lines together long.  Equal playing time has been given to our Dmen lately no matter what line they're on, so he'd get 20 mins probably.  But yeah, LA will no doubt re-sign him.  They'd be stupid not to. 


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:04 PM

Miller and Tootoo.
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