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Eller Destroyed

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Gryba connects shoulder to chest, Eller gets koed and his head slams on the ice causing rivers of blood. Gryba ejected for interference, puck clearly touched Eller's stick. No Hit League. Video to follow.

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mod, please merge with habs sens thread.

I don't think there will be a suspension. You could see Subban chewing out Diaz for the blind pass to Eller.

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mod, please merge with habs sens thread.

I don't think there will be a suspension. You could see Subban chewing out Diaz for the blind pass to Eller.

Why? This deserves it's own thread for the ref's incompetence.

Ref clearly put his arm up after he saw Eller down.

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Gryba connects shoulder to chest, Eller gets koed and his head slams on the ice causing rivers of blood. Gryba ejected for interference, puck clearly touched Eller's stick. No Hit League. Video to follow.

That's not really shoulder to chest. Using that description I expected a Scott Stevens special. The last angle shows he barely contacted his chest if any.

I do think the 5 minutes was a reaction to the blood, but at full speed it's not that clear cut.

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he's a nobody so he'll prob get suspended. the result looks much worse than the hit

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I'm so tired of the league ejecting players for clean hits, yet when suspensions/fines are warranted, most of the time they get a slap on the wrist. Not only that , the league clearly favors certain players and teams. Every day, they become more of a joke. I've been trying to get some friends to get into hockey but they can't understand the rules. My friend asked me "why can one team do that but not the other?" , and "how come he didn't get called for that in the first period, but did in the third, when the one in the first period was 20 times worst?".

New fans, get confused by the rules and how they're called and lose interest.

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That's not really shoulder to chest. Using that description I expected a Scott Stevens special. The last angle shows he barely contacted his chest if any.

I do think the 5 minutes was a reaction to the blood, but at full speed it's not that clear cut.

That was full chest, don't know what you are looking at. Pretty mcuh the entire HNIC panel and Keenan said it looked clean.

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Apparently eller is missing teeth and swallowed his mouthguard. That's crazy.



So all the blood came from his head hitting the ice?

And his visor.

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That was full chest, don't know what you are looking at. Pretty mcuh the entire HNIC panel and Keenan said it looked clean.

I'm looking at the video you posted. Look at the last angle. He mostly whiffs.

I'm not saying it's dirty. I just don't think that's full chest. And the way Eller spun around if a ref wasn't already looking at him it may have looked like a headshot. (to be clear, I am in no way saying it was a headshot).

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I'm looking at the video you posted. Look at the last angle. He mostly whiffs.

I'm not saying it's dirty. I just don't think that's full chest. And the way Eller spun around if a ref wasn't already looking at him it may have looked like a headshot. (to be clear, I am in no way saying it was a headshot).

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2567443/knockout_medium.gif

this angle shows pretty much no head. Other angles show heavy torso and maybe a gloss of the chin.

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It looked like he dropped his shoulder to lean into the hit as if he was trying to connect with Eller's chest. At least it did to me. I think it is clean, just really bad because of all the blood from having his head hit the ice.

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http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2567443/knockout_medium.gif

this angle shows pretty much no head. Other angles show heavy torso and maybe a gloss of the chin.

Like I said, I'm not saying it's a headshot.

Looked like he got a fair amount of shoulder, arms. I just dont' think it was solid chest.

The refs probably saw Eller spinning, then blood pouring from his face and called the penalty. It definitely was not worth 5 minutes and an ejection. Even if they did think it was interference. 2 at best.

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Like I said, I'm not saying it's a headshot.

Looked like he got a fair amount of shoulder, arms. I just dont' think it was solid chest.

The refs probably saw Eller spinning, then blood pouring from his face and called the penalty. It definitely was not worth 5 minutes and an ejection. Even if they did think it was interference. 2 at best.

From the live footage one of the refs clearly puts his arm up after eller stays down.

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Obviously some impact on Eller's head... you can see it jerk back suddenly.

For him to lose teeth and swallow his freaking mouthguard.... he got his chin clipped and fell face down, teeth to ice...? I don't see impact with the mouth on the video.

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Obviously some impact on Eller's head... you can see it jerk back suddenly.

For him to lose teeth and swallow his freaking mouthguard.... he got his chin clipped and fell face down, teeth to ice...? I don't see impact with the mouth on the video.

His face clearly bounces off the ice.

Sens have had all the momentum since the hit.

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The Subban hit later (or maybe earlier but they showed it on the intermission after I saw that hit) was dirtier than that hit.

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His face clearly bounces off the ice.

Sens have had all the momentum since the hit.

His face doesn't bounce off the ice if he simply gets hit in the chest. He was clearly knocked out from the hit, otherwise he would have been able to brace himself. Just watching the TSN analysis on it now, they thinking it was a clean hit, but it's hard to tell. If you look at the replay from one side, looks like the head is the first part of the body hit. I guess what they are saying is that as long as you also are hitting enough of the body as well, it's clean because the head doesn't become the "principle" point of contact.

What I'll say though, I have no problem with the call made at full speed, it looked bad.

Am I the only one that is starting to get really annoyed with the No Hitting League comment everytime someone gets called for a questionable hit? It's getting really tired. There is still tons of hitting in this league, there is no attempt to remove hitting from the league, all that is being done is to try and protect players from having their lives altered (which concussions can do). What is wrong with that.

Will refs occassionally make a bad call? Sure....so what? Happens in several other instances as well.

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initial point of contact was to the chest, but chin was clipped due to having his head down. shouldnt have even been a 2 minute penalty. clean hit with an unfortunate result

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His face doesn't bounce off the ice if he simply gets hit in the chest. He was clearly knocked out from the hit, otherwise he would have been able to brace himself. Just watching the TSN analysis on it now, they thinking it was a clean hit, but it's hard to tell. If you look at the replay from one side, looks like the head is the first part of the body hit. I guess what they are saying is that as long as you also are hitting enough of the body as well, it's clean because the head doesn't become the "principle" point of contact.

What I'll say though, I have no problem with the call made at full speed, it looked bad.

Am I the only one that is starting to get really annoyed with the No Hitting League comment everytime someone gets called for a questionable hit? It's getting really tired. There is still tons of hitting in this league, there is no attempt to remove hitting from the league, all that is being done is to try and protect players from having their lives altered (which concussions can do). What is wrong with that.

Will refs occassionally make a bad call? Sure....so what? Happens in several other instances as well.

Heave you ever been bodychecked that hard? You don't always have control as you are stunned, concussion or otherwise. He did look out before he hit the ice though. TSN guys clearly show why it is clean and a bogus call.

And the ref clearly made the call after the injury. No matter what that is not how you call a penalty. And the no hit league comments are warranted, there is far too many overreactions to physicality in the NHL right now.

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Apparently eller is missing teeth and swallowed his mouthguard. That's crazy.

And his visor.

Sheesh... Swallowed his mouth guard...

Best wishes to his recovery

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Obviously some impact on Eller's head... you can see it jerk back suddenly.

For him to lose teeth and swallow his freaking mouthguard.... he got his chin clipped and fell face down, teeth to ice...? I don't see impact with the mouth on the video.

Looks like principle point of contact was to the head. Sure, it was a suicide pass, but that doesn't give the guy free reign to hit to the head - that's flawed logic. I was surprised to hear the CBC guys say it was clean. I think they were focusing too much on the interference call, which they correctly pointed out was the wrong call. If it is a hit to the head, and it sure looks like it, it seems completely suspendable. If Ference gets one game for his love tap to Grabovski, this surely deserves something.

This wasn't a bodycheck, it was a shoulder to the head.

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