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#201 BuckeyeWingsfan80

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:31 PM

 

^^^

 

Abdelkader made a stupid play, like hes done multiple times in the playoffs, and gave the NHL exactly what it wanted for making an easy example for their headshot rule. Everyone here may hate it, but, Abdelkader still made a jackass play trying to do something huge, and hurt the team by doing so. 

 

Agreed 100%.  He didn't need to hit the guy like he did for the check to be effective.


Don't take it from fans on LGW, take it from his peers. NHL players have spoken and they think Tootoo is the dirtiest player in the league.

Get a clue already.

#202 nuts2u

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:33 PM

Looking at the replays I don't know how anyone could believe it was a legal hit.

If any player hit ANY Red Wing with that same hit we would want his head along with at least 5 games.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:36 PM

I still can't swallow the fact that Webber (sp?) wasn't suspended by Shanny after ramming Zata's head into the boards with TWO hands!

 

Yeah, how about that?


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:37 PM

I don't think that it should have been a suspension, but the amount of vitriol around here is a little over the top.  I mean, while we might disagree with his call, it is at least a defensible call.  I get the frustration, but I'm not understanding the level of hate.

 

Also, the Weber call (or lack thereof), while infuriating at the time, is completely irrelevant with regards to this.  That's in the past.  And a completely different play.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:39 PM

I don't think that it should have been a suspension, but the amount of vitriol around here is a little over the top.  I mean, while we might disagree with his call, it is at least a defensible call.  I get the frustration, but I'm not understanding the level of hate.

 


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:40 PM

My god what a bunch of little cry babies. Enough with all the shade your throwing at Shanny.

I read In here everyday that we as Wing fans are better than all the opposing teams fans and we are all class and blah blah blah blah.

Bunch of hypocrites!!!

Theres af****** committe that decides this and Shanny is the poor f*** that has to be the face and mouthpeice for Gary.

f*** Stevie for going to Tampa,f****** sell out traitor and Nill is a bag of s*** too!

Get your venting out and lets move on to some positivity for tmmrrws game!

 

Sheeesh chill out man.  Breathe!!



#207 BuckeyeWingsfan80

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:41 PM

I don't think that it should have been a suspension, but the amount of vitriol around here is a little over the top.  I mean, while we might disagree with his call, it is at least a defensible call.  I get the frustration, but I'm not understanding the level of hate.

 

Also, the Weber call (or lack thereof), while infuriating at the time, is completely irrelevant with regards to this.  That's in the past.  And a completely different play.

 

I think it's more of a product of a frustrating year with a marginal team that is now losing one of its most physical players at a time when it needs all hands on deck.

 

This Wings team already lacked physicality, and with Abby out, they'll basically have none.


Don't take it from fans on LGW, take it from his peers. NHL players have spoken and they think Tootoo is the dirtiest player in the league.

Get a clue already.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:49 PM

Good god, are people actually mad at Shanahan for suspending Abby on what was obviously a dirty play?  Why did he jump at all?  Had he not left his feet he would have not hit the dude in the head at all, and he still would have crushed him...LEGALLY. 

 

Anybody blaming Shanny, or talking about how the integrity of the game is ruined now, needs to head to the doctor's office and get checked out.  You have an acute case of homerism that could turn deadly. 


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Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

Looking at the replays I don't know how anyone could believe it was a legal hit.

If any player hit ANY Red Wing with that same hit we would want his head along with at least 5 games.

 

Completely false. I wish every hit like that in the league was legal. Our players get their heads up and don't put themselves in a position to get injured.



#210 joesuffP

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

Don't worry, Abdelkader will get to play one more game before we lose the series.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:59 PM

Sadly, you all know that even if he didn't leave his feet but if guy was on ice injured we would have had same outcome (maybe not the in game major)...

 

And I said before, if Gryba going to get suspended for his 98% clean hit, Abs was for sure going to get one. However, if you read the Eller thread, I posted vid of Subban hit (that is very close to Kronwall type hits except he does leave feet) that goes uncalled and unpunished. I am more pissed at the inconsistency. The Refs are inconsistent in the games but even that can be forgiven, we all know how fast the game plays... but some of that inconsistency comes directly from the league office (ie. Shanahan).



#212 Datsyukian_Deke_13

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:01 PM

This was a borderline call. That rule seems to have a lot of gray area... I wouldn't really oppose this suspension if Souray (sp?) was disciplined for his reckless hit from behind on Abby

 

Way too much gray area! This is why fans get so upset about the inconsistency, there is way to much room for interpretation. I mean really, exactly how far is "a considerable amount of distance"?

 

Personally I think Abby is sitting the next two games because of an "injury", take it out of the conversation and this whole scenario doesn't even play out. It's either a legal hit or it isn't, an injury should have no influence in penalty or the suspension.

 

Tootoo made what was essentially the same hit early this season resulting in no injury. They played on and the hit was old news by the end of the night..



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:05 PM

And don't forget Selanna punching Dekeyser in back of head. Isn't that "going for the head"? Guess it falls under same clause as Webber (if its not an actual hockey play, its basically MMA move) we can't punish it.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:09 PM

Good god, are people actually mad at Shanahan for suspending Abby on what was obviously a dirty play?  Why did he jump at all?  Had he not left his feet he would have not hit the dude in the head at all, and he still would have crushed him...LEGALLY. 

 

Anybody blaming Shanny, or talking about how the integrity of the game is ruined now, needs to head to the doctor's office and get checked out.  You have an acute case of homerism that could turn deadly. 

 

Again, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Everyone sees it differently, it's not homerism.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:13 PM

They just need to rally around this and have everyone step it up. Easier said than done sure, but what's done is done. The decision isn't gonna change. Do I like it? No. But s*** happens, and one player does not make a team. Stick Bert on the top line to be a net front presence, and get Tootoo back in to hit everything that moves. He was very effective the last few games of the season so there is no reason why he cant continue to be. BELIEVE.



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:15 PM

Well there are lots of opinions in the world, but only some of them are right.  By any definition that's charging.  Plus he hit him in the head.  Plus he injured him.  Suspension every time.  If he hit him in the head but didn't charge, or if he charged but didn't hit him in the head, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.  He did both, and he deserved the suspension because of it.


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:17 PM

Well there are lots of opinions in the world, but only some of them are right.  By any definition that's charging.  Plus he hit him in the head.  Plus he injured him.  Suspension every time.  If he hit him in the head but didn't charge, or if he charged but didn't hit him in the head, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.  He did both, and he deserved the suspension because of it.

 

Really??  lol



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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:17 PM

They just need to rally around this and have everyone step it up. Easier said than done sure, but what's done is done. The decision isn't gonna change. Do I like it? No. But s*** happens, and one player does not make a team. Stick Bert on the top line to be a net front presence, and get Tootoo back in to hit everything that moves. He was very effective the last few games of the season so there is no reason why he cant continue to be. BELIEVE.


I'd love to see Tatar in the lineup. What I saw of Bertuzzi showed that he is not ready to play. I agree with Tootoo because of his intensity.

#219 matt198913

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:24 PM

 
Completely false. I wish every hit like that in the league was legal. Our players get their heads up and don't put themselves in a position to get injured.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:26 PM

I don't like at all that the fact that there was an injury is one of the key points that was used to determine the punishment.  That's why people get so frustrated.  Who cares if the player got seriously injured or jumped right back up?  That should be irrelevant.  Players are getting whacked int he head all game long, it's just a matter of whether or not the player getting hit stays down or gets injured.

 

Homer got his ass beat every game but because he was in front of the net, that was an acceptable location to take a beating. 

Just maddening .

I guess Kronwall should be suspended infinite games with all the similar hits he's put on players, just like that. 


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